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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Headsup: PHP7 feature freeze
From: anatol.php@belski.net ("Anatol Belski")

Hi Matt,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Wilmas [mailto:php_lists@realplain.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 4:10 AM
> To: Internals; Kalle Sommer Nielsen
> Cc: Anatoliy Belsky; Dmitry Stogov; Nikita Popov; Ferenc Kovacs; Xinchen
Hui
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Headsup: PHP7 feature freeze
> 
> Hello RMs, all!
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kalle Sommer Nielsen"
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015
> 
> > Howdy
> >
> > This is a  quick heads up that we plan to have the next release of
> > 7.0.0 be Beta 1, this marks a feature freeze and from there on, we
> > will switch focus on to stabilization, regressions and other bug
> > fixes.
> >
> > Beta 1 is schedule to be tagged and packaged on July 7th and released
> > on July 9th which is a small 2 weeks from now to get any remaining
> > changes of such in.
> >
> > If you are in doubt about whether or not your change would be
> > considered a 'feature' or have any other questions, then feel free to
> > mail us RMs or reply here.
> 
> I intended to reply to this shortly after, and I guess there isn't much
reason to
> now.  :-)  I started messing with the parameter parsing stuff, which I
thought
> would take a couple days max, but I got deep into it.
> Message coming sometime soon about that...
> 
> Anyway, I was wanting to do some enhancements to the Postgres extension,
> and I was hopeful they could be included for 7 until I saw this message
and
> thought, "Uh-oh."  Until the ZPP thing, I hoped I'd have the basics of the
> "features" whipped up by the end of last week (not that I thought anything
could
> be commited immediately ;-)).
> 
> Is this the shortest Alpha period ever? (Serious question. :-))  If I had
really
> jumped on the work (I had to get up to speed on some new-to-me internals),
I
> could have been maybe a month sooner.  But when I saw the wiki timetable,
I
> thought there'd been until August or so after 3-4 Alphas...
> *shrug*  So if there are 9 releases before final, there's going to be 4-5
Betas and
> 4-5 RCs?  I thought there'd be more "even" distribution.
> 
> Well, the Postgres stuff comes from the fact that I just "discovered" it
(truly, in-
> depth) about 10 weeks ago.  (Life changing!)  Of course shortly after
something
> led me to start looking into PHP's code, after already being disappointed.
As I
> analyzed things more, I figured I could actually fulfill my own wishlist.
:-D
> 
> The main "feature" is very straight-forward (almost search-and-replace!).
> The other feature group I'm not sure what thoughts will be about
> usability/implementation, but it shouldn't be that big either, and totally
isolated
> from existing functionality.
> 
> BTW, there are *several* other issues with the extension's code, that I
started
> noticing right away.  I literally lost track, didn't note them; but
hopefully can
> clean them all up.  Of course these can all be done, and also applied to
5.6,
> AFAIK.
> 
> If we can have these changes sometime, it'd be nice if it was before
7.1...
> Of course, for my personal use, I really don't care since I can use them
right
> away.  But I think the PHP-Postgres community needs them and would be
glad!
> 
Thanks for the suggestion. Do you already have some code to show?

Regards

Anatol