Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:86494 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 40530 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2015 09:09:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jun 2015 09:09:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.212.175 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.175 mail-wi0-f175.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.175] ([209.85.212.175:36864] helo=mail-wi0-f175.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1C/A2-12998-54761755 for ; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 05:09:25 -0400 Received: by wifx6 with SMTP id x6so13651104wif.0 for ; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 02:09:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=N89Jz1LKkzFfCZbgGyk5AAxZeYKXzd5BTqpdXK2AwEg=; b=BgysCc4QzecaOETv+V8n2+nzuk00l3jb2FblVC4JP1aJjaO91079gxR4hahuXdO3oJ 7sRBDRpOBpfRg1p4jvNpmuozObbPEa+6jZIDF3qoiU2ABKCjkhcLGZpGuxKD05I10yAX /Tp7Xq3KzJSg4cEAfvUsgtwupzjko+ertsf1Mez8g9YJuvhUDUcojMdutBXTwBD8TOxP mr9N5UZTWpyz+PQR5KBW8OWeAI+hp7g9c08bKM2HieRMzqXVKsL5IpqZm6JXXYOhNzrS P3Jr/g0m+SYRfjaiCrMkHsDOAXIm8M1dXMoXFVX62mu6ZYQPLResiRrJh3om+i410Kmm 9b6g== X-Received: by 10.194.23.197 with SMTP id o5mr4633066wjf.75.1433495362621; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 02:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.159] ([62.189.198.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a19sm2434595wiv.2.2015.06.05.02.09.20 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Jun 2015 02:09:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <557166F4.8030303@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 10:08:04 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "internals@lists.php.net" References: <556F80CF.40303@moonspot.net> <557013DF.9090708@mabe.berlin> <55708412.7090606@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Method call overhead From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) Sara Golemon wrote on 04/06/2015 22:55: >> On Jun 4, 2015, at 10:00, Rowan Collins wrote: >> : http://3v4l.org/l75kf >> >> HHVM's percentages are lower primarily because its for loop measure is much slower in absolute terms. >> > At the risk of distracting from the central topic, I'd like to point out that HHVM's times are almost certainly based on non-JITted code. The JIT doesn't kick in until the 11th request, and 3v4l scripts are, by definition, only run once. > > PHP is optimized for blind interp, so it's doing better in that mode. That makes a lot of sense, and just goes to show how hard it is to get useful information out of a simple benchmark.