Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:86165 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 77896 invoked from network); 12 May 2015 05:44:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 May 2015 05:44:49 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=andi@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=andi@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.220.48 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: andi@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.48 mail-pa0-f48.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.48] ([209.85.220.48:34389] helo=mail-pa0-f48.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EB/E0-04700-05391555 for ; Tue, 12 May 2015 01:44:48 -0400 Received: by pacyx8 with SMTP id yx8so133191701pac.1 for ; Mon, 11 May 2015 22:44:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=Ph9ob9XENSNDKEhjLCPAZnkdwDCRxss8EEzMcR6aGpg=; b=dsoD8bmYYL47AgyZbrUnigLJgxvuqIY4eSIllFqp87i/AEzWZ/LtNWgVYrFhNGmzUs Z6OsRbkJxW0yYGPkHwcq7TSl70LiFqAlqNQ7lYm89bMTRH1Y0Vvg04Ms4JqWVEEbK1/V JLNP0XUNPaQMdtNUhpjSKPGKOt0SZ9opKiJVoaQ5B8O+SeMfMD64+qPvc488QK5D53oA efCjlHUfjmC/9Ww2FolYxjKmqTBzBG5iHfYs0GeMJLTQaThBhtn2GcJY9WeN/woUpvFc 4bFmhXyPJNX3VKlBi288vy/C82iitQOv1eWv5fbO8GuW1jMza6vIaAZVNjMtd1ymvHaR p7JA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk5x1uVkX70619As0pw0MZ/GgvWppmNTe0H5ETNKkKckvlsym0wjMEB1ubFLHmiGHrAopO8X7GwdbD5GRdDdGxQnpo4OLvgFKBCbq5+mFMesevl7dbUS4tyxoXOIZvyEMTpysvc8sh7u2zDsCpkTbdTVLBg7EWLWkpIuG4SYnECW0S/1wc= X-Received: by 10.68.195.2 with SMTP id ia2mr25238518pbc.33.1431409485888; Mon, 11 May 2015 22:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.129] (107-137-69-239.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [107.137.69.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id zs5sm14881897pac.11.2015.05.11.22.44.44 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 11 May 2015 22:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12F70) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 22:44:43 -0700 Cc: Matt Wilmas , Stanislav Malyshev , PHP internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <55513AA4.7010706@gmail.com> <579127CDC1B54040BEEFD4564A6F78B7@pc1> To: Sara Golemon Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Undefined variables undefined order From: andi@zend.com (Andi Gutmans) > On May 11, 2015, at 9:05 PM, Sara Golemon wrote: >=20 >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Matt Wilmas wr= ote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stanislav Malyshev" >> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 >>=20 >>>> argument. I'd like to propose making the order of evaluation defined >>>> by splitting this into separate statements: >>>=20 >>> What is the purpose of this? I.e. why is it important that these notices= >>> would be produced in certain order? >>=20 >> Logic, consistency, "polish," etc. :-) > Exactly this. :) >=20 > It's just my CDO kicking in. It's not necessary for the language to > function. Heck, HHVM already matches PHP 5.1-7.0's out-of-order > behavior, so fixing PHP only creates double work for me. I just look > at these error messages and twitch uncomfortably. I don't think it is worth the change. I actually prefer to leave code path o= ptimization up to gcc here vs. trying to tell it what to do.=20 Andi >=20 > -Sara >=20 > --=20 > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >=20