Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:86011 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 51333 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2015 08:57:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Apr 2015 08:57:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kalle.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kalle.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.212.178 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kalle.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.178 mail-wi0-f178.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.178] ([209.85.212.178:35440] helo=mail-wi0-f178.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E9/90-38700-EFC90455 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 04:57:35 -0400 Received: by widdi4 with SMTP id di4so171068846wid.0 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 01:57:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TJ5zAVBYvs4H/Yh1hhX4d6prLBkLA3eGbhWtU11UkP0=; b=P6nx04P+Em3YvM8pb35FMYbsfOrft1n9A3IXt6eHGQ8EH0AixhoiK5D1V90orADVP+ WDtlx0IVqGo1EnlVXktsfyjKJUINfoq2nVf4GUmDqlFAR8WEaZNpuH7J2GXmD+iYBgj4 lq5tdO5psAxG334enbUW2ui2BK7Hcfv29ckvc2GX5UIYhy/P2iIAUIXVdEMaZ+BYMZdq xmLPE1BdRUdJfoF8Bya5XRlAgdUTVKG+wfTHn6JlGYJOG552ttrYvOtU3TWG2PwMTwcU DvmqcbACia+KOcHIQZeaP+ClaLn3/56sxNQSnUQ6n9d+tI3+HQ6t/Fl2WqZ0thqhJdDy 2GuA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.106.131 with SMTP id gu3mr3800811wib.16.1430297851624; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 01:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Sender: kalle.php@gmail.com Received: by 10.28.217.19 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 01:57:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:57:31 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: x7cn4O92rN-c5RsAHiJ5QPkNBHE Message-ID: To: Patrick ALLAERT Cc: Olivier Garcia , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][VOTE] Improved Error Callback Mechanism From: kalle@php.net (Kalle Sommer Nielsen) Hi Patrick 2015-04-29 0:10 GMT+02:00 Patrick ALLAERT : > "No go"? Isn't that a bit rough? Well we need to be fair and hold our own policies/processes we agree to true, else there is no point in having them. > > That kind of change normally doesn't require an RFC at all. We did one for > documentation purpose instead of just a PR and a mail saying "ok for 7?". > > Refusing this because we actually did an RFC to *document* it goes in the > opposite direction of encouraging people to create them. > > Isn't this just a documented "no brainer"? As Adam said, if this was just committed, it would have been asked to be reverted because now is the time to focus on stabilizing. If we are to keep our promise by having a release this year, we cannot afford these small things, and that even involes my tiny improvement to memory_get[_peak]_usage() the other day as it does not contribute to that (no matter how redudant my small patch were). I would love to see more work toward identifying issues in PHP7, and hopefully we can get that once we release the first alpha. -- regards, Kalle Sommer Nielsen kalle@php.net