Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:85929 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 68614 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2015 14:14:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Apr 2015 14:14:41 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=arvids.godjuks@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=arvids.godjuks@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.49 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.49 mail-la0-f49.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.49] ([209.85.215.49:35414] helo=mail-la0-f49.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E4/FF-35080-05EF8355 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:14:41 -0400 Received: by labbd9 with SMTP id bd9so13641658lab.2 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 07:14:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=dp3y41hAldP+Y6rkhXmJzqNLHSkzda1zIORBrCifjIY=; b=EeHddO30gDcEPlSH+zBsZe/7IOTX5bpKdXKhcXWQmc8Gbc5oZgIjGPOArQZljnfS+R 6M2WLzLDAFhB6qsAmloFOSTRIVmVMpuHLFND0qVFAkFWq2g/FSsI2AtEg+pm1sjiLBUt Bzvkryj2nVXiTarP8WMwg4KwTw6agMB71IJKuHyMG15wKQ8/3g0KM+HK9yiPgWIS7a9d Bs3/kiL3vyfxzYhnHDMmeQQlDYIxOCPE0SXL/bqVFN9veLs6LowyusMD1ADkhFES8H6G TrJpThaA5m83Qb78HN2J0m9TuIXhDewE/Av8WpKEzRdmxiRcIsXmi+zjpv/go0ruMbhv 2Jag== X-Received: by 10.152.243.9 with SMTP id wu9mr2576094lac.63.1429798478069; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 07:14:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.32.74 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 07:14:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5537826A.9010209@gmx.de> <5538881C.8010502@oracle.com> <5538C2A7.4050600@lsces.co.uk> <5538CF4B.5090401@beccati.com> <5538D9B0.5020507@lsces.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 17:14:17 +0300 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11342c2c62c752051464e608 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PDO Oracle driver From: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com (Arvids Godjuks) --001a11342c2c62c752051464e608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2015-04-23 17:02 GMT+03:00 Pierre Joye : > > On Apr 23, 2015 8:45 PM, "Arvids Godjuks" > wrote: > > > > My view is that this really needs a good discussion and regardless of the > > desicions made - resource allocation to move it forward. > > Whatever the intent was originally for the PDO and and regardless of what > > the docs say about it, as Christoph has linked and quoted, the reality is > > PDO is everywhere. Doctrine? Based on PDO. Yii 1/2 ActiveRecord? PDO. > > Laravel's Eloquent ? PDO again. You get the picture. > > Not being in core is an issue with PDO. Sqlsrv is in pecl, maintained, and > support both "native" and PDO. > I do not think it's a "in core" vs "in pecl" issue at all. It's the fact that that it is data objects and it was new back in the day - the adoption of it was lightning fast. It was easy to make an abstraction over it, it fit to major patterns, like AR, like a glove. Besides, installing DB modules for PHP under ubuntu is done by hand - it's not built into the "php5" package. --001a11342c2c62c752051464e608--