Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:85920 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38619 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2015 11:38:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Apr 2015 11:38:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 217.147.176.214 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.147.176.214 mail4-2.serversure.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.147.176.214] ([217.147.176.214:54376] helo=mail4.serversure.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CE/BB-35080-4B9D8355 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 07:38:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 5884 invoked by uid 89); 23 Apr 2015 11:38:25 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 5876, pid: 5880, t: 0.0891s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.96/m:52/d:10677 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.8?) (lester@rainbowdigitalmedia.org.uk@81.138.11.136) by mail4.serversure.net with ESMTPA; 23 Apr 2015 11:38:25 -0000 Message-ID: <5538D9B0.5020507@lsces.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 12:38:24 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <5537826A.9010209@gmx.de> <5538881C.8010502@oracle.com> <5538C2A7.4050600@lsces.co.uk> <5538CF4B.5090401@beccati.com> In-Reply-To: <5538CF4B.5090401@beccati.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PDO Oracle driver From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) On 23/04/15 11:54, Matteo Beccati wrote: > Guess what? Tirelessly whining about things being inherently broken > won't magically fix them. Neither will throwing money at PDO. It is restricted to a single active transaction so can't handle cross database activity. One has to switch back to the generic drivers. So one ends up with having to run both anyway. Christoph SQL abstraction is a separate matter. While it IS one reason PDO is not a solution to cross database working, there are other problems at the data layer. PDO is not a complete solution even to the data layer abstraction, so does it actually provide any value to PHP? Would it not be better to re-address the 'problem' and come up with a better solution? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk