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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] What's our official stance on small self-contained additions in a micro version
From: francois@php.net (=?utf-8?Q?Fran=C3=A7ois_Laupretre?=)

> De : Stanislav Malyshev [mailto:smalyshev@gmail.com]
>
> > The questions here are:
> > * will this code break any code running with PHP before that patch?
> > * does this code change the language in any way?
>=20
> OK, so I think there's a misunderstanding here. What you describing is
> exactly my position - enhancements that are a) small and b)
> self-contained are OK, others are not OK. This has been the case since
> we started the whole format release process thing.

It seems to me we are mixing two questions : can 'small self-contained' =
changes be introduced in a patch release, and how 'small' and =
'self-contained' a change must be not to require an RFC ? It seems =
implicit that, once an RFC is written, it is not a 'small =
self-contained' change anymore.

One example : https://wiki.php.net/rfc/cyclic-replace can probably be =
considered as a 'small self-contained' addition. Should I continue with =
the RFC, respecting feature freeze and proposing it for 7.1, or should I =
just ask the PR to be merged in 7.0 ? If it is accepted by a vote, can =
it still go to 7.0 ? It is really not clear to me.

Regards

Fran=C3=A7ois