Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:85639 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26068 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2015 16:28:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Apr 2015 16:28:43 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=francois@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=francois@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 212.27.42.2 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: francois@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.27.42.2 smtp2-g21.free.fr Received: from [212.27.42.2] ([212.27.42.2:16524] helo=smtp2-g21.free.fr) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 94/80-21906-ABC1C155 for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2015 11:28:43 -0500 Received: from moorea (unknown [82.240.16.115]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BA34B0272; Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:26:44 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: To: "'Ferenc Kovacs'" Cc: "'Dennis Birkholz'" , "'PHP Internals'" References: <551BC7CF.3080309@birkholz.biz> <02f101d06c6e$3790c020$a6b24060$@php.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:28:37 +0200 Message-ID: <030a01d06c98$e84725b0$b8d57110$@php.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIZ+jDGdyrFO2cHYjlP05/PNTH2cAKYC5AAA3FgjHQCUHIWR5xiYHiw Content-Language: fr X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 150401-0, 01/04/2015), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] What's our official stance on small self-contained additions in a micro version From: francois@php.net (=?utf-8?Q?Fran=C3=A7ois_Laupretre?=) > De : Ferenc Kovacs [mailto:tyra3l@gmail.com] > > I could accept any decision between holding off new features until = next=20 > minor/major and allowing features explicitly without going through an = RFC, but I=20 > want to have an explicit definition on what is allowed and how should = the case- > by-case process work. The release process document is clear : "New features or additions to = the core should go through the RFC process." (hopefully considering the = 'core' as the whole PHP distribution). It would be better using "must" = instead of "should" but it is quite clear. So, providing "a room for exceptions on a case by case basis and only = for small self-contained features and additions" does not mean that = these features don't have to go through an RFC. There is nothing to add = to the rules, we just need to have them enforced by people who currently = merge new features without demanding an approved RFC. If everyone = respects the rules, the 'case by case process' is clear, it means = 'approved through an RFC'. Only bug fixes with no side effect can be = merged without an RFC. So, once again, as https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/1145 clearly did = not follow the rules and was not approved in any way, I'm asking whoever = merged it to revert the change and ask the author to go through an RFC. Regards Fran=C3=A7ois