Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:85634 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 97955 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2015 11:23:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Apr 2015 11:23:09 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=francois@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=francois@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 212.27.42.2 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: francois@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.27.42.2 smtp2-g21.free.fr Received: from [212.27.42.2] ([212.27.42.2:51565] helo=smtp2-g21.free.fr) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 92/20-30489-C15DB155 for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2015 06:23:08 -0500 Received: from moorea (unknown [82.240.16.115]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555104B0266; Wed, 1 Apr 2015 13:21:10 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: To: "'Dennis Birkholz'" , References: <551BC7CF.3080309@birkholz.biz> In-Reply-To: <551BC7CF.3080309@birkholz.biz> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 13:23:01 +0200 Message-ID: <02f101d06c6e$3790c020$a6b24060$@php.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIZ+jDGdyrFO2cHYjlP05/PNTH2cAKYC5AAnJAlKBA= Content-Language: fr X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 150401-0, 01/04/2015), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] What's our official stance on small self-contained additions in a micro version From: francois@php.net (=?utf-8?Q?Fran=C3=A7ois_Laupretre?=) > De : Dennis Birkholz [mailto:dennis@birkholz.biz] > > in my opinion all feature changes should go in the next X.Y version = and > should require an RFC. > The reason is that "small self-contained changes" that get pulled in > without a discussion on internals and an RFC can easily lead to bad > design decisions in the long run. Correct. The "small self-contained changes" concept easily leads to the = rules not being the same for everyone. > I am sorry for the contributor but my example is > https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/1145 > (DateTime::createFromImmutable() method) which was posted here on the > list, got three negative replies but was merged nevertheless. I will = not > reproduce the arguments here but now the door for a clean solution > inside the DateTimeInterface seems closed forever. This example is clearly an RFC released as a PR to bypass the rules = (discussion, vote, and feature freeze date). I don't understand why it = was accepted and merged. Can someone give the rule that was followed in = this case ? If it should have gone through an RFC, can we revert the = change and send him back to the RFC process ? Regards Fran=C3=A7ois