Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:85574 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 57007 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2015 00:00:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Mar 2015 00:00:31 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.179 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.179 mail-pd0-f179.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.179] ([209.85.192.179:33783] helo=mail-pd0-f179.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1F/C0-51287-E93E9155 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:00:30 -0500 Received: by pdnc3 with SMTP id c3so1628336pdn.0 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 17:00:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vLEOrfeNc0lF1uoxn0Y9jSQD5dxRgua9UZO2pGzZUPA=; b=gAzjpiEpsnqbRU1bFmM/tSnvm/BxtViTvoheE3l3G6QhGxVH09w3EpkguISZ9wB6jF cPW1hZ6VGHj/TO+r5YGS4FYWb45Y5ry2lw8I3y0voQrxU3J8TOEY50idjvhi2VVTPl4J 3+1Gjvf33ugW002EBDpPKtxj32gScLm/NveDdxECHnJh/ITVbEbaaW1xHXufIWJvJ8Gu M+MlFYnRU6qmwoUnPUGLb0GyxrcUue+tBPKRJjM6pJWcppOY0flseSvPL2+sT6eTxyaE JL7ubFu6aS1psg4Naqhk8ZOaE7yPMPssfR9ESBMuk6KilNz7zdbhlEvi5eZX+75PSXAh 2d5g== X-Received: by 10.70.55.36 with SMTP id o4mr61969451pdp.168.1427760027733; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 17:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Stas-Air.local (108-66-6-48.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [108.66.6.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bv5sm11828028pbb.61.2015.03.30.17.00.26 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Mar 2015 17:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5519E399.9070704@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 17:00:25 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christoph Becker , Rowan Collins , internals@lists.php.net References: <55193060.5000804@php.net> <55199AE8.4090100@gmail.com> <5519B3E3.1070102@gmail.com> <5519C9E0.6010001@gmail.com> <5519D6CF.9030909@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <5519D6CF.9030909@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What's our official stance on small self-containedadditions in a micro version From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > Have you considered developers targeting shared hosting? Working on an > improvement they have to wait for five years to use it is most certainly > annoying. However, introducing this feature in a revision might not > really help them at all. Not immediately, but shared hoster much faster would upgrade from 5.5.9 to 5.5.23 than from 5.5.9 to 7.1. Also, if adding feature does not help some specific group, it doesn't mean it shouldn't be done - because not adding doesn't help *all* groups. So at least we can help people that do have option to upgrade. What is being proposed that everybody has to wait for years for even tiniest feature to become available. I don't think it is a good idea. If that were the principle in PHP in its early days, many people - probably including myself - would never start contributing to core, since what's the point if they have to wait for results of their labor to be useful to them for several years? -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com