Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:85458 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5693 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2015 06:39:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Mar 2015 06:39:14 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.51 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.51 mail-qg0-f51.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.51] ([209.85.192.51:34661] helo=mail-qg0-f51.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CA/64-57065-F0852155 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 01:39:13 -0500 Received: by qgep97 with SMTP id p97so27486582qge.1 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 23:39:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=qQkGzMm05H/YBPlvRAoHf/mV1J4a6QUvhnqrYwoys44=; b=ttMqwZnK8GS8HRGUMha/Ewny49QL7foJ+gpbwD1vPLafX/heN9o/wNfph0DKaB2OYj T8V5HO/tMSazTKd1DnVmFNrKb8wJhRvRLA+j3NN4BozcTmfENTKnRYMx9ZDsfWggRIzp dmzajFbNFO9Yj6CUSyCFOKRViqXIDcyVCRgdXDzqhF/xMLm8sb74V6ezoUksm0A7daxw lxssp2zSQ6YhTTXWKtOyR6GTO0Mxpq3gnHfIhO/VJPtaqaIEMz6wUEowIyIZwuX0W65R g4FFRNJlbYnEEHlJeVJtmTVAgspt9eT+3YDnPeWJt+04DAS2k9eQTyB6fjv7ccySH4fB +G9A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.95.215 with SMTP id i81mr9985962qge.4.1427265547739; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 23:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.39.195 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 23:39:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <66c0cca2453de53bed0328af2732c7bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 13:39:07 +0700 Message-ID: To: Masaki Kagaya Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Deprecate or remove mbstring function overloads in PHP 7 From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Masaki Kagaya wrote: > Rui agreed the deprecation and Yasuo gave notice to PHP internal in April > 2012. > > https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=65785 > http://marc.info/?l=php-internals&m=133548185505478&w=2 Deprecation is fine and I am sure we will have more until we reach beta. We should reach a real consensus on that. Case like this one are rather obvious, no big deal and we discussed that already, nobody opposed it. Thaat being said, I do agree with Francois here, bigger changes or removals require RFC, no matter how good they are. We must not allow double standards, no matter for who or what. Cheers, Pierre