Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:85451 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 45411 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2015 16:30:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Mar 2015 16:30:54 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=francois@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=francois@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 212.27.42.2 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: francois@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.27.42.2 smtp2-g21.free.fr Received: from [212.27.42.2] ([212.27.42.2:31911] helo=smtp2-g21.free.fr) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D5/00-44766-D3191155 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 11:30:54 -0500 Received: from moorea (unknown [82.240.16.115]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5344B0266; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 17:29:18 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: To: "'Bob Weinand'" , "'Nikita Popov'" Cc: "'PHP internals'" References: <006301d06637$ebbb4ee0$c331eca0$@php.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 17:30:41 +0100 Message-ID: <007901d0664f$dee34430$9ca9cc90$@php.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQINGwJxyuYhIX37R6FSHjGdA0ViXQKNUyGJAoOUU5ucid854A== Content-Language: fr X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 150324-0, 24/03/2015), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Deprecate or remove mbstring function overloads in PHP 7 From: francois@php.net (=?utf-8?Q?Fran=C3=A7ois_Laupretre?=) > De : Bob Weinand [mailto:bobwei9@hotmail.com] > > No, he isn't asking for delaying the timeline. He's asking if we can = do this > without RFC. Minimal self-contained changes don't need a RFC and can = go as > well into alpha/beta phase without issues. Sorry, I don't understand when a change is supposed to require an RFC or = not, and when it can come after feature freeze or not. Is it written = somewhere ? What is the definition of a 'minimal self-contained' change = ? Why is it different if it belongs to an extension ? I may be wrong but the proposed change is not what I call a 'minimal = self-contained' change and there's a clear BC break. I'd love it to be = part of 7.0 but I would first appreciate to be sure the rules are the = same for everyone. Regards Fran=C3=A7ois