Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:85429 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 78137 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2015 05:23:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Mar 2015 05:23:28 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=andi@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=andi@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.220.41 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: andi@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.41 mail-pa0-f41.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.41] ([209.85.220.41:35586] helo=mail-pa0-f41.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 0C/F0-04797-EC4F0155 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 00:23:27 -0500 Received: by pagv19 with SMTP id v19so39311222pag.2 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:23:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=D4W24WHXs4si/XHz1FQ/H5btL1mQHdV9ueFXr4TmmIo=; b=iew3YvUdmURHwkSnJCWqY3LU2mX9VODAAfo2FW0kJaGp+hPXQRMEnpyaYceJ7+lib/ MUujMC9z51YSE5tQTiY1Kefhs/GkMWGXcxl7S6hixWMEiNtrVy9g6zq1lUr0rcWYIf56 r+1FdxcEJdJq6bpaCPrIWd+onyyS9gJzuaQQUJVanFrYvHMhO2uRx4rNxQNhpy5poG0y 7QeUu5eKKhcDqUtPLDxNPn9DO7iTzk9JluNIRSkVWrqjGgUdTzS5AD0sE2j8EtxaRAAi QXDFU4XCrM4owm+K6PPEaLRm/cr/WSJb9DOtx9S0rUOQ0M5kXABd1JZuru10ClN1zYWG cafA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnRZeuaWfu/G07J+Mx+UuxkhTVXBCoBS1/6HRYAVADGZn5QC00VgtkD1Su07xcm0T5O4kksDmKFtExsqObYr5Byq7wkuxZlFNK1nNNdKsSBICaCkBFlGhEHImi78vdfI7X1wYidyx3JBTD2ktorrOqk2u5Y0g== X-Received: by 10.70.34.129 with SMTP id z1mr4205797pdi.113.1427174602709; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.129] (107-137-69-239.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [107.137.69.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qj3sm2756802pac.31.2015.03.23.22.23.21 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12D508) In-Reply-To: <550D96D0.7020406@lerdorf.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:23:20 -0700 Cc: "francois@php.net" , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <000001d063ef$08af3ca0$1a0db5e0$@php.net> <550D96D0.7020406@lerdorf.com> To: Rasmus Lerdorf Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal to delay 7.0 timeline From: andi@zend.com (Andi Gutmans) > On Mar 21, 2015, at 9:05 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >=20 >> On 03/21/2015 08:52 AM, Fran=C3=A7ois Laupretre wrote: >> Now, after more calls from many of you to delay it, and as Zeev himself >> seemed to consider it as more acceptable, I am proposing again to delay 7= .0 >> feature freeze to May, 15 (2 month delay, date where vote is starting). I= >> won=E2=80=99t repeat all the arguments of my previous posts but, to summa= rize, it >> would allow to include important features, making it a =E2=80=98real=E2=80= =99 major version. >> Releasing a major version is not just a question of BC break, we also nee= d >> to think about what we put forward. So, we need features. We already have= >> STH, but we can do more (I personally have at least 4 RFCs I didn=E2=80=99= t have >> time for, including scalar pseudo-methods, which can be an important >> feature). >=20 > No, please, let's get what we have stabilized and out the door. There > are always more things to do and we can delay things indefinitely. And I > completely disagree that this isn't a 'real' major version. >=20 > -Rasmus >=20 +1=