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From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev)

Hi!

> famous articles written about it like "PHP fractal of bad design" and

That article. Which is from what I remember last time reading it was
about 75% like "why I need to look in the manual instead of language
being magically exactly the way I imagine it should be without any
basis?". And another 20% like "why PHP is not my favorite language? How
dare they take decisions that I don't agree with?" Yeah, some people
have opinions.

> i highly doubt that you didn't read one of these. 

I did read these and then some. As I said, people write a lot of stuff.
Just because some guy somewhere wrote "php sucks" doesn't mean we should
do massive changes. PHP is not ideal, it has its warts, but bringing up
"people on the internet write that php sucks" each time change is
discussed is useless. The change should be proven on its own merits, not
on merit of some guy on the internet saying php sucks.

> i didn't mention any break or things. also many languages are different

Yes you did. You just proposed removing large part of PHP API. That
would break things, there can be no confusion about it. If you propose
*additional* API, that's fine - but before there's any talk about
removing stuff, you should have the existing already overwhelmingly
popular API in your hand.

> from they were 20 years from now. languages keep evolving. you may not
> see this as a breaking change 20 years from now imo

Then let's talk about it in 20 years. No point talking about it now. Now
we should talk about what we can do now - i.e. making better API.

-- 
Stas Malyshev
smalyshev@gmail.com