Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:85402 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 53045 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2015 09:05:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Mar 2015 09:05:31 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.171 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.171 mail-qc0-f171.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.171] ([209.85.216.171:34162] helo=mail-qc0-f171.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A4/D6-00828-BD58E055 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 04:05:31 -0500 Received: by qcay5 with SMTP id y5so34304034qca.1 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 02:05:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=PeHemXXtMWSplEwQtihvl4n68ES1mY47O5spHKh90X8=; b=g6K2VFzC8CU+GdT23hO3cv+xKGrnZeHy6Hze2eW8ahcQNj9LMwBHox92ig/N41nEZW fQ8kOxfck4Yeh8Qs9CEX8FxYkfIwxTsPAtP/Ds+KrUpyStcy38m3i+/0JcP1NaLxACBC 4JjZoNV11xHFci6J8S3PzwCkAYgT10e1WBBBtTlu3oPKxxW7uCZHEoRxuW1SCUcnQSk0 iKNIcaGKaQpQN1gjeUg+c9saMjLmfJNJC6dM9e7ho9DI8bhqIKe3kCqxk2GEUvl5nCSo nKYgrSylwB8snJap5uYLTlC+w0N5Fkokp1LK+D37gwiaK0NuOBz4LSpBoNVLG3yS/Ye8 MnTw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.55.22.168 with SMTP id 40mr119836341qkw.101.1427015128647; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 02:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.39.195 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 02:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.39.195 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Mar 2015 02:05:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 16:05:28 +0700 Message-ID: To: Leigh Cc: PHP internals , Peter Cowburn , Patrick Schaaf Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11493f2ed50e5f0511dcd999 Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFtQSFAtREVWXSBUbyBSRkMgb3IgTm90IFRvIFJGQyBbd2FzIFJlOiBbUEhQLURFVg==?= =?UTF-8?B?XSDlm57lpI3vvJogW1JGQ11bRElTQ1VTU0lPTl0gQWRkIHByZWdfcmVwbGFjZV9jYWxsYmFja19hcnJh?= =?UTF-8?B?eSBmdW5jdGlvbl0=?= From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) --001a11493f2ed50e5f0511dcd999 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mar 22, 2015 3:45 PM, "Leigh" wrote: > > On 22 March 2015 at 07:00, Patrick Schaaf wrote: > > > > Hmm. Is that really the line to be drawn? An RFC, by itself, provides a > > good point to spell out a change clearly, and anchor it for reference in > > discussion. Discussion on internals itself cannot provide that, it is too > > scattered, and POC code provides it at the code layer only. Thinking about > > documentation, for example. > > > Sure, I can agree on RFC all the things. > > > So, maybe the line is better drawn at what needs a vote, and what does not? > > > > Just an idea: as soon as an RFC goes up / leaves draft state, could it > > have a "needs a vote?" prevoting section? And if a certain minimum opts for > > "needs a vote" (within a minimum discussion period after leaving draft), > > one must be held? (thinking about a one week period and three or five > > needs-a-vote calls, or something similar) > > > I suppose this could be part of the discussion on list when it is not > obvious, then we at least have some documented opinions on the decision, > rather than the assumptions of individuals. The minimal discussion time is well documented and approved. Same for the voting period. --001a11493f2ed50e5f0511dcd999--