Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:85376 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 66584 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2015 16:55:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Mar 2015 16:55:09 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.212.177 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.177 mail-wi0-f177.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.177] ([209.85.212.177:35637] helo=mail-wi0-f177.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FF/88-18917-C62AD055 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 11:55:08 -0500 Received: by wibdy8 with SMTP id dy8so12837113wib.0 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 09:55:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=47VPWD80unFnEtjE+YV6jcpmWIiY2kzaSId5PS2lwm4=; b=MSVNQdO3SCqgfsBc40ULsuTdBRzYGuWjt0jbSfGpWAwwdiiSktfcNDS5WyfDfsFYqg 9NKCwK3uFsVH/j9g6hAz4sT//JPMTvtZZfKnvfFlmBmZtzfELvfOtRjIOwivVd3jJrl7 RAHmgyS6uFYk3+HxKvQLyNBFKoBRkP1qI7aCuucTXoKfE2zrY6qMKMFWThQO2RvbUnnL 6jSQuDiC7HgaPErYhaYBQnUahlNzwc/83aCq7IsKjS1tJpT2SWzyZrhYkaWWgCTGaKIR IWLM7TOWW7DY5cdzfbc7B+fTyP1D/bpG37NMk/UH3JExoaqf04aSDKJnj85+tAvMo2aS /41A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm2CBpQI6I0mnudRk+3vMi/30c+mDoN5x0nuEPbhjbDLmD2TfKRsh31V/p4sSGgTroLzgsFlQ/ZGc/UJ6FbTRI4Fagdyd4nXxV4XDXvhZLV0DeYjRsfBeMBke31EVOVAxzq2B8qamL1991Sdgawd1n4mXrLcw== X-Received: by 10.180.106.68 with SMTP id gs4mr5599583wib.39.1426956905283; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 09:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.204.107.190] ([2.54.180.8]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a6sm3044880wiy.17.2015.03.21.09.55.03 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 21 Mar 2015 09:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-065D94B2-3970-41EB-B6F9-B6BF1FCCCD8E Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12D508) In-Reply-To: <550D96D0.7020406@lerdorf.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 18:55:02 +0200 Cc: "francois@php.net" , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <67EFB3DC-9F46-4FDE-B37E-A8642343D8B7@zend.com> References: <000001d063ef$08af3ca0$1a0db5e0$@php.net> <550D96D0.7020406@lerdorf.com> To: Rasmus Lerdorf Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal to delay 7.0 timeline From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) --Apple-Mail-065D94B2-3970-41EB-B6F9-B6BF1FCCCD8E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sent from my mobile > On 21 =D7=91=D7=9E=D7=A8=D7=A5 2015, at 18:05, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >=20 >> On 03/21/2015 08:52 AM, Fran=C3=A7ois Laupretre wrote: >> Now, after more calls from many of you to delay it, and as Zeev himself >> seemed to consider it as more acceptable, I am proposing again to delay 7= .0 >> feature freeze to May, 15 (2 month delay, date where vote is starting). I= >> won=E2=80=99t repeat all the arguments of my previous posts but, to summa= rize, it >> would allow to include important features, making it a =E2=80=98real=E2=80= =99 major version. >> Releasing a major version is not just a question of BC break, we also nee= d >> to think about what we put forward. So, we need features. We already have= >> STH, but we can do more (I personally have at least 4 RFCs I didn=E2=80=99= t have >> time for, including scalar pseudo-methods, which can be an important >> feature). >=20 > No, please, let's get what we have stabilized and out the door. There > are always more things to do and we can delay things indefinitely. And I > completely disagree that this isn't a 'real' major version. +1 Zeev= --Apple-Mail-065D94B2-3970-41EB-B6F9-B6BF1FCCCD8E--