Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:85372 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 52399 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2015 16:05:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Mar 2015 16:05:44 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com designates 209.85.192.169 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.169 mail-pd0-f169.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.169] ([209.85.192.169:35751] helo=mail-pd0-f169.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6A/95-18917-6D69D055 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 11:05:43 -0500 Received: by pdbop1 with SMTP id op1so138792881pdb.2 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 09:05:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=EFnPfZyhAGFqz0AeF5gVqcXuAoQ2wO1CTaNmli4JD48=; b=Pei73ZQ9U1PcvqeSNno6vMueDojSBbizBQNHAWfW96LORHNHBzdYzFwlhT0bpcbQb/ insdaZ1dqWvaBl63DczsIhd2ePiawftHILMbaoxQPMgQUYRPUvwES4hGgCvL1ha5iSPB b4bX06sCrHxiJokFGGoXA7/Pg2Ee0QQykf8gaaPC9GysXx8rExCQbE9n2fZM0XzOQCkW hU8mKF1O2qnGS10lc+m/e98++w09PMOXlhsWMzzc/9pLHKCVPXWCzo3bnTaUHywaJTx1 13fWqNf3NN8lxDYrJeEa/s9Jz3N8tV203ZjqKHZVMQhQIoKCCFX00r4wk5gdW60Ee8Ez pT0A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmfqBZjFtkHMiLWLgq+ZigoD669fhmbm36dZHtqLcDt+S9zuDPtN50cQGS2mxur5aqeB7rJ X-Received: by 10.70.38.227 with SMTP id j3mr164423327pdk.149.1426953938903; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 09:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.200.14] (c-50-131-44-225.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [50.131.44.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id yc2sm2313809pbb.87.2015.03.21.09.05.37 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 21 Mar 2015 09:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <550D96D0.7020406@lerdorf.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 09:05:36 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: francois@php.net, internals@lists.php.net References: <000001d063ef$08af3ca0$1a0db5e0$@php.net> In-Reply-To: <000001d063ef$08af3ca0$1a0db5e0$@php.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6k3HfPvv6MDSgsViBLiIaT2KO76Xipinm" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal to delay 7.0 timeline From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) --6k3HfPvv6MDSgsViBLiIaT2KO76Xipinm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/21/2015 08:52 AM, Fran=E7ois Laupretre wrote: > Now, after more calls from many of you to delay it, and as Zeev himself= > seemed to consider it as more acceptable, I am proposing again to delay= 7.0 > feature freeze to May, 15 (2 month delay, date where vote is starting).= I > won=92t repeat all the arguments of my previous posts but, to summarize= , it > would allow to include important features, making it a =91real=92 major= version. > Releasing a major version is not just a question of BC break, we also n= eed > to think about what we put forward. So, we need features. We already ha= ve > STH, but we can do more (I personally have at least 4 RFCs I didn=92t h= ave > time for, including scalar pseudo-methods, which can be an important > feature). No, please, let's get what we have stabilized and out the door. There are always more things to do and we can delay things indefinitely. And I completely disagree that this isn't a 'real' major version. -Rasmus --6k3HfPvv6MDSgsViBLiIaT2KO76Xipinm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlUNltAACgkQlxayKTuqOuB7kACfaLkNOcRimQ4irOPg81cbz22z EDQAnAtPAgvRRKiax2Ihrd/1HKGXSS2a =vYVj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6k3HfPvv6MDSgsViBLiIaT2KO76Xipinm--