Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:85371 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 50349 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2015 15:52:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Mar 2015 15:52:39 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=francois@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=francois@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 212.27.42.2 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: francois@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.27.42.2 smtp2-g21.free.fr Received: from [212.27.42.2] ([212.27.42.2:15025] helo=smtp2-g21.free.fr) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BD/35-18917-6C39D055 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 10:52:38 -0500 Received: from moorea (unknown [82.240.16.115]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E544B0253 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 16:51:10 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: To: Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 16:52:28 +0100 Message-ID: <000001d063ef$08af3ca0$1a0db5e0$@php.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01D063F7.6A74DD20" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdBj62f968l/cPHOShK7Fj4pq7qB7Q== Content-Language: fr X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 150321-0, 21/03/2015), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Proposal to delay 7.0 timeline From: francois@php.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_Laupretre?=) ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01D063F7.6A74DD20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 One month ago, I sent a message (https://marc.info/?l=3Dphp-internals = &m=3D142449701107797) explaining in details why I thought we should take more time to gather features for 7.0. Zeev replied that it was absolutely impossible, and = that the timeline had to be respected. =20 Now, after more calls from many of you to delay it, and as Zeev himself seemed to consider it as more acceptable, I am proposing again to delay = 7.0 feature freeze to May, 15 (2 month delay, date where vote is starting). = I won=92t repeat all the arguments of my previous posts but, to summarize, = it would allow to include important features, making it a =91real=92 major = version. Releasing a major version is not just a question of BC break, we also = need to think about what we put forward. So, we need features. We already = have STH, but we can do more (I personally have at least 4 RFCs I didn=92t = have time for, including scalar pseudo-methods, which can be an important feature). =20 @Anthony, don=92t get me wrong, it is absolutely not a way to keep = competing about STH. Your RFC is accepted, that=92s fine, the debate is over. If = we decide for an additional delay, I may propose something about STH, but = it will be a follow-up to your RFC, proposing additions, not an alternative = STH system. =20 So, Zeev asked in a previous mail how we could decide to delay the = timeline, as it would theoretically require an RFC, which would take all the time. Good question. But, as I have a feeling that everyone except Zeev was = quite flexible on the question, maybe we can have an agreement without = organizing a formal vote. =20 Just a proposal, give thoughts. =20 Regards =20 Fran=E7ois =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01D063F7.6A74DD20--