Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:85150 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5455 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2015 22:53:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Mar 2015 22:53:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.212.173 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.173 mail-wi0-f173.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.173] ([209.85.212.173:37118] helo=mail-wi0-f173.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 80/79-56166-670B8055 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 17:53:42 -0500 Received: by wixw10 with SMTP id w10so23889219wix.0 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:53:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=tDuAYaF/HUbKGG0qkgxkbTMt3ZGk7rlE1VLECw0EO4c=; b=KkTwI7+zW7bGA0Cv4HQ1gFBciesygD1auz3lxnFVsmce4glZVOfp31IwYJtAa6jkYb edZ1qVDCQdi79w3lnUHVaUFdQ7/8a0brTolIvQrXkUacdDjnJoT9a+IxRk8r4XNOCnLl VCpMRjwGIyfv8kyMa97Pox7qS4ct35gnwVa6vcp17SIrhSCV5zwBeQzNXZXyo2jDJP1U driKGq5wY1QQ/urftOoutqhL69TqY74Jp0temdZFXSV74Hln8qNPeavB2LAaGkXuSdLs WyiPCiM8APu898hwAlRdlX5ign4YOphvSThw77WkzomNAh60z31geDkJYcfhQn9ptIWy ODZQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlKtUJUtdto295JF5OEoZzTl+o/DAP4Ij3f9sM68TIw4K2fnZ7n5MEGvEpjt/vPa7VUhGX9KccRgBme/W5Ev9KVOhtmxxHFjpLd1cAFMnLKEYiWAwITgNJ5DurQLVe/8SzVVRQG/W82ztr55N+1seizgjGsRw== X-Received: by 10.194.5.37 with SMTP id p5mr138141725wjp.20.1426632818621; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:53:38 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJFHr8Clies13y5JIi84UjytrMlmJw3ydug Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 00:53:37 +0200 Message-ID: To: Stelian Mocanita Cc: PHP Internals List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Vote process change proposal From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) All, I wholeheartedly recommend that we don't discuss any proposals to change the voting process at this point in time. There are definitely flaws in the voting RFC and its implementation, and I think we should address them - but not right now. With the exception of the few RFCs still up for a vote - we should move our focus exclusively on getting PHP 7 out the door on time. We have at least a few months before this becomes relevant again if not more. We've also just went through a very intense vote, and we need to take some time for things to settle down dealing with complicated issues like that. Zeev > -----Original Message----- > From: Stelian Mocanita [mailto:stelian.mocanita@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 10:02 PM > To: PHP Internals List > Subject: [PHP-DEV] Vote process change proposal > > Hello internals, > > In the light of recent events, I would like to propose a change to the way > we > vote. > > The change would be switching from visible casted votes to private / > hidden > votes until the date/time the vote closes, at which time everything will > be > made visible once again. > > This would block voting "lobbying" in various social channels based on > possible outcomes, and would allow voting to run its course unaltered. The > people that do want to share their vote option, can still do that in the > mailing > list where some already justify their votes. > > Looking forward for your thoughts on this, Stelian