Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:85149 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 3577 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2015 22:41:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Mar 2015 22:41:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=danack@basereality.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=danack@basereality.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain basereality.com from 209.85.160.180 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: danack@basereality.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.180 mail-yk0-f180.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.180] ([209.85.160.180:33591] helo=mail-yk0-f180.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 66/19-56166-49DA8055 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 17:41:25 -0500 Received: by ykek76 with SMTP id k76so9803069yke.0 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:41:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ElaMx1HixuS2PzPmVNP0aAd83plrUqsqxdaBV2TOcEk=; b=PkwOEico6VjmNeyyy/U1zXqt3fIODAxPIYjXuXcGHoQIwA8Ppmexs6NhrZr189CurI bFZY/NfKtIOVzmTIiiauNJABvvBU2OSGoDOiclBfQ3W/1M1ECI9ZwLpT26FCLpJAeGie yQNTLiZAwAaBTeYp+62jk4FRh/B2w96nogkDeW5Ax8O+JVkUiGNWZfkNxBF2CTX5+TX9 JfWrQ+rJYY89AEiyoE0TcBlqIaERpYQFTGr8iowfCpSEoP4MEtAAnrggVFKxgWzah6um Rm23oILysvQNt4i/5joFfYz7g3tf1Q0hmHjMrVAJikIFNZF72cS+1pDg56WX0vPfkWXL /iaQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn762Q10MDEo8h5wvS2gGd15PND7mkt1M4fZLe10vPmBQAjedcv2jYsF4WiMZr7byBPt4CM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.104.194 with SMTP id i42mr68089759yhg.89.1426632082419; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.170.71.86 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:41:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2.99.229.112] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 22:41:22 +0000 Message-ID: To: Stelian Mocanita Cc: PHP Internals List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote process change proposal From: danack@basereality.com (Dan Ackroyd) I dislike the lobbying, and think some of the allgeged abusive back-channel communications are wildly out of order, but I would be against this change. There have been a couple of instances in the past few weeks where someone has voted in a particular way. When asked why they voted like that, they've explained themselves which has lead to other people realising the actual implications of an RFC, and for those people to either vote no, or switch their vote from yes to no. Aka allowing people to see votes has prevented some RFCs being approved that would have otherwise been approved. I think having clearer rules about what lobbying is permitted, and introducing some rules on who can vote on what would be a better way of limiting the effect of lobbying. cheers Dan