Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:85137 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 76710 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2015 20:58:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Mar 2015 20:58:49 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sbj.ml.read@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sbj.ml.read@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.213.179 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sbj.ml.read@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.179 mail-ig0-f179.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.179] ([209.85.213.179:36560] helo=mail-ig0-f179.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B7/C3-56166-98598055 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:58:49 -0500 Received: by igbue6 with SMTP id ue6so83301800igb.1 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:58:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=NmDMGDngj/dcPLA4/jCppKWGhWJMsSa3uQGnwIAvxD4=; b=TwADRNgjOEHBvftSxOwwLCp/Gu0yWBDGxWUbTGLQsKY4xbM0rEPeDYUMWb1r9qqsRO Wdqybi3dX1NTxNoDQ0JoHlC+NsTSRm9reL3X2uCPaLSUn0LV/SOHiDZvHTjF6U5onGnd 3wHC2rIzNGJQB1PZB1hfhm1Onvs2em6V8xWtD4X6weQ9gJ2Mb0cMe/1IN95v86Y7OGd3 HzJlsJagclk1pvPV1DWEF0vnpEOuoPcKagoG7tc6IzZXwgyWjesI3I6WWA6ShhWvBdX+ eivBwGJtL6Gbkt6SRn0RLHavVlhImCBp8lyCSNsMm14CppOQGMRiur4NihBZFuopV8EG QDhw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.131.196 with SMTP id oo4mr1441328igb.2.1426625926348; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.132.5 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:58:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55089008.8010302@gmail.com> References: <55089008.8010302@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 21:58:46 +0100 Message-ID: To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: Stelian Mocanita , PHP Internals List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote process change proposal From: sbj.ml.read@gmail.com ("Sebastian B.-Hagensen") Hi, 2015-03-17 21:35 GMT+01:00 Stanislav Malyshev : > Or, even worse, given current tendencies, somebody submits a proposal, > couple of people say "yeah good idea", then vote happens and somehow > there's 30 "no" votes without any explanation - and without possibility > to fix it since by the time the proposer knows it the proposal is > already declined. It wouldn't be very encouraging to submit RFCs with > such process. Unrelated to the suggestion of hiding votes: How about adding an *optional* field next to the vote, where a voter can link to his reasoning (a link to a mail to the list preferably). This might make picking up older rfcs (,that were declined for earlier versions easier if the general idea of the rfc isn't flawed) and collects reasons for the outcome of an rfc without searching through months of discussions. This change might also make it easier for the author to chase down, why a vote failed, even if the prior discussion didn't point into that direction.