Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:85135 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 72496 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2015 20:35:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Mar 2015 20:35:28 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.179 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.179 mail-pd0-f179.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.179] ([209.85.192.179:34208] helo=mail-pd0-f179.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 68/F2-56166-F0098055 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:35:28 -0500 Received: by pdbni2 with SMTP id ni2so19845416pdb.1 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:35:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hWrNtcPsoC69DQ4M3jEJeWwGWq/qAhHuS7X8k4Wip10=; b=x0KWSJFUurKToqSsFC1+Vy42wnaWfgGq5VjiRta8dcyvFLHBEBxY7MDBkouDJxA/PP +I0yT5EKRQD1DhjIG2TzQU30gOCsOrUmDoLWIWnzFgyEjF2sEnkdgcFvd3K5/Outtda5 uGCP+ZmRJKA7DckyUyqc64LITBX/56DYkDT7UcNOHG2hwpoKG7MqQ0idrJ/9XJaspsMY pBZeXOjT6j+VUIb2zdkT813ineiOgsip+rVFKthSp5Bu9VgddXQ6MSBmSnd0KHcymZqe tP60EFVDkMiVPbUwWewm78t3bVO77AHxvUiU2gX4ClpxGeJR77YR7JSfnze7wo4GDb8Z Bk8A== X-Received: by 10.70.54.198 with SMTP id l6mr155712409pdp.74.1426624524165; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Stas-Air.local (108-66-6-48.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [108.66.6.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z4sm23854557pdn.46.2015.03.17.13.35.23 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55089008.8010302@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:35:20 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stelian Mocanita , PHP Internals List References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Vote process change proposal From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > This would block voting "lobbying" in various social channels based on > possible > outcomes, and would allow voting to run its course unaltered. The people Why we want to block it? What's wrong in convincing people that your idea is OK (or that it's not OK, for that matter)? Isn't it kind of the whole point of discussing it? > want to share their vote option, can still do that in the mailing list > where some already > justify their votes. So now parallel to voting we get threads announcing everybody's votes. Yay, more noise! Or, even worse, given current tendencies, somebody submits a proposal, couple of people say "yeah good idea", then vote happens and somehow there's 30 "no" votes without any explanation - and without possibility to fix it since by the time the proposer knows it the proposal is already declined. It wouldn't be very encouraging to submit RFCs with such process. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com