Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:85019 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 53491 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2015 09:55:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Mar 2015 09:55:06 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=dmitry@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=dmitry@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.220.178 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: dmitry@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.178 mail-vc0-f178.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.178] ([209.85.220.178:63791] helo=mail-vc0-f178.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 97/0A-00492-878A6055 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 04:55:05 -0500 Received: by mail-vc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id id10so11745227vcb.9 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 02:55:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1RyZwROWJWJclSe0sRVmFMFszik0YvXRomYncR+XY6o=; b=EaovTPAOXQiYFGnOCYUORJHV0EbnMDZtBrDdDLJBYRFqd+xF3CW7gF/DOuQ5J28EzH EomP8EnD0xCBrxmJcB/kYzCK/DIXPsRzCmr4hvrW2Nrzp0EKQnwQ5Zs2L4S8Deua+lEb 0nfpQbYB2SyN8faE8RSAA5AHw1Zm3eCR49Y/9HaExUcUdZ3zVm20kefLUa4OiT9qvag6 BxPwYvJsd/th/kE6L7ivA4f+LCIsSs5PnoDdtp1O6fCs+qRWF5ET05xVQ6vR7/bO+get 0Iiw8Gxw3tHs4LPVlW0NQEP8kY1E00pYIXl1MeljtQN6CMWbq7k+o2r+tzLjV0q+EsLr bkLA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmx2ywYBAMF2Q5NBzT+vrme0Ee8Bu8VBGhG7qbrGgfVbVTorRSMCpr4NzOwLubDmDBDEazxwtA8gbAMxkE62JBtyz87DJjAZustSAx265QV9uGXToEQaXNR0IkLwg//TItKyLORor52U+/cw2E4hh1MKQgsXQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.52.136 with SMTP id t8mr62220493vdo.49.1426499701749; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 02:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.113.231 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 02:55:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <325E0097-FD7E-4997-A95D-20C62368E162@zend.com> <55031C54.6060802@eliw.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:55:01 +0300 Message-ID: To: Stelian Mocanita Cc: Eli , PHP Internals List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0115f048fed779051164d710 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Basic Scalar Types From: dmitry@zend.com (Dmitry Stogov) --089e0115f048fed779051164d710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Stelian Mocanita wrote: > So to get it clear for everyone: the right way is for internals to ignore > community as a > whole, stick to their own views and implement something nobody actually > wants Few people already told - they like this. Thanks. Dmitry. > - just > because there is no time - on the idea that "something is better than > nothing"? > > Without pointing any fingers it sure looks like a stalling tactic where > someone > eventually gets what they want. > > Highly disappointed on this outcome. > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Eli wrote: > > > Not that another +1 is needed, but I'm with Andi here. I do personally > > like this 3rd proposal as an option, if nothing else because it > > implements the 'simpler base' at the moment, and allows us, once people > > are used to this being part of the language, to continue to evolve > > later. And that evolution can be based upon our real world experience > > of using this 'base level' of typehinting for a while. > > > > Versus the more complicated versions, of which both Zeev's and Anthony's > > are. In each their own way. > > > > Eli > > > > On 3/13/15 1:17 AM, Andi Gutmans wrote: > > > Agree and I would vote +1 on this even if I'd prefer coercive. It is a > > > very valid option for a 7.0 and it is future proof. > > > > -- > > | Eli White | http://eliw.com/ | Twitter: EliW | > > > > > > > --089e0115f048fed779051164d710--