Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84991 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 92334 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2015 06:31:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Mar 2015 06:31:34 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.47 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.47 mail-pa0-f47.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.47] ([209.85.220.47:34086] helo=mail-pa0-f47.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D4/F5-06614-3C876055 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 01:31:33 -0500 Received: by pacwe9 with SMTP id we9so55612449pac.1 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 23:31:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GtRjM05uGrX27MsR61NJdqQshs68lF2dQhjEltpCPuk=; b=JHUV4dE6/rYW+vKMLRluc3cxrU52P5IscGw9RJ95KZHBDiRTU/SlIr+0c8Dzn7cSt8 7MtnjVvBflqAH7AqHa9tFwZJGZBHLwk+MhJkV6vx8jZT4CJfZZ3aodF6JeykIVfRJRjo hNoFqzzhNrJT3K7xK5GDAgCJRjrAH090oV58McApm4Ql0afdWMvX+8pFE5Msw76kPR0p nY+8vZf6rd0IGxoOedT9xX5XY8M0K/3BoejQh6Us4DTt5bktY7T6Kv+/7oO6iLGNCVKE /ArL0JiU5pEifVnUnixpiVJoMGNbesgAH8+BDpNYTKg7ZgSD/y7qkGUYIsW5/PsOX4jK wHzw== X-Received: by 10.70.28.5 with SMTP id x5mr36805337pdg.13.1426487488770; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 23:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Stas-Air.local (108-66-6-48.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [108.66.6.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id zd14sm15364207pab.20.2015.03.15.23.31.25 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 15 Mar 2015 23:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <550678BC.6050408@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 23:31:24 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Sturgeon , PHP internals References: <5505C875.1030202@gmail.com> <4938435E-F283-42A6-88AC-930881D97501@php.net> <470c025a9cf0cc61d2d17683800d1fbf@mail.gmail.com> <550610DD.8060002@seld.be> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Voting irregularities From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > One rule I liked when I was part of the FIG was that people can only > vote on votes initiated after they became a member. That stops people > signing up simply to vote on an RFC which needs more votes either way. That makes a lot of sense, though I don't think we had much of this issue. First, I don't think we have that many newcomers (as opposed to people lurking and voting only rarely). Second, if somebody wanted to game the system, nothing would prevent him from having their friends join a day before the vote is initiated. The reverse is harder, but only a bit - if one wants to organize a covert downvoting campaign against somebody, discussion period gives enough chance to gather the troops. Of course, as you noted, no evidence this actually happened. But despite that, if this improves the voting procedure, why not. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com