Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84953 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 7891 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2015 23:08:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Mar 2015 23:08:22 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=j.boggiano@seld.be; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=j.boggiano@seld.be; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain seld.be designates 209.85.192.174 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: j.boggiano@seld.be X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.174 mail-pd0-f174.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.174] ([209.85.192.174:35626] helo=mail-pd0-f174.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F7/D6-06614-2E016055 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 18:08:21 -0500 Received: by pdbop1 with SMTP id op1so40242356pdb.2 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:08:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IkenCCoIbSoHQOpdkiI6FT8SpnF0KUr5XfHHxitxhfQ=; b=aew3cyVFxchLvf+YKPG/Ei1MU6vSAus8iKmHEjYuQNNAWCggzPlTq7mihPxb3P8qtm G9KlJPrYLFQCYxzXsuyZ5fkfZmFXdyDlFxkjoLQKT0MW3rLk+uWOZVDt99DIAVfO3vrZ 1Og1/6b9k2eTGHcgeepHG+AIWd8/Pi3v4j6qxBk7gzumFKrr5IgjpY8/W6FyuW+ULePN tFoeaHT544+AXSznNBnqQvIn0wHxToAOiat7Wm8wqimMe1Gw3Z4BPKERNfLlu9vEf9kr Ij0VTIFf1p1vPrd2SxiuVnjVT0ePy/8vmKqfUMKsDg+PCsEBoBJbgTt8pDcrGa6NFRnq OIvw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnZ1+GBgD07bJMUszCC6mxA/xp3JNjVPvo+tLUzVFBxDL+a0Mx7WQIKZ5uRoMOJV6yfPGpu X-Received: by 10.67.7.10 with SMTP id cy10mr127256987pad.151.1426460895980; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.10] (114-198-71-68.dyn.iinet.net.au. [114.198.71.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fr13sm13918746pdb.55.2015.03.15.16.08.13 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <550610DD.8060002@seld.be> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 23:08:13 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <5505C875.1030202@gmail.com> <4938435E-F283-42A6-88AC-930881D97501@php.net> <470c025a9cf0cc61d2d17683800d1fbf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Voting irregularities From: j.boggiano@seld.be (Jordi Boggiano) On 15/03/2015 22:27, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Sun, 15 Mar 2015, Zeev Suraski wrote: > >>> I don't think it's going to far, if you have people with no clue writing >>> this: >>> >>> https://plus.google.com/+KristianK%C3%B6hntopp/posts/ijoDNH2M8mB >> >> Do you know who Kristian is and how instrumental he was in the >> proliferation of PHP? How can you bring yourself to say he has no >> clue? > > I certainly know who he is. I've been around as nearly as long as you've > been. Anybody who's only argument is "You're turning PHP into Java" and > basically says "we need four more against votes" has no clue. I don't > care who says it. I agree that past good deeds and contributions should not be a free pass for bad behavior. Not going to discuss the example at hand, but I think it's dangerous to say "it's ok he did good in the past". Cheers Jordi