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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 00:06:04 +0200
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To: Wim Godden <wim.godden@cu.be>
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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Voting irregularities
From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wim Godden [mailto:wim.godden@cu.be]
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 11:30 PM
> To: Zeev Suraski
> Cc: internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Voting irregularities
>
>
> On 15/03/2015 20:30, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> >> I don't think it's going to far, if you have people with no clue
> >> writing
> >> this:
> >>
> >> https://plus.google.com/+KristianK%C3%B6hntopp/posts/ijoDNH2M8mB
> >
> > Do you know who Kristian is and how instrumental he was in the
> > proliferation of PHP?  How can you bring yourself to say he has no
> > clue?  It's fine that you disagree with him, but saying he has no clue
> > is
> offensive.
> >
> > Let's also not pretend there hasn't been countless calls by the RFC
> > supporters to vote Yes, including ones that pretend there's no problem
> > here and it's good for everyone.  If Kristian's position is FUD, so is
> > that.
> >
> >
> Zeev,
>
> I agree that Kristian might have played a part in the proliferation of
> PHP,  but
> shouldn't we consider not only creating a clearer set of guidelines as to
> who
> receives voting karma, but also what the conditions are for keeping voting
> karma ? Otherwise in 10 years time we'll have 250 people with voting
> karma,
> 150 of them for writing documentation or submitting a single patch 20
> years
> ago.

Any discussion about who gets to vote should be done after we're done voting
and not right now.  The quiet period after the PHP 7.0 votes are over would
probably be good for that.

Zeev