Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84934 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 74380 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2015 21:58:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Mar 2015 21:58:06 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 74.125.82.171 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.171 mail-we0-f171.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.171] ([74.125.82.171:34493] helo=mail-we0-f171.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B7/50-06614-C6006055 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:58:05 -0500 Received: by wegp1 with SMTP id p1so26012548weg.1 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:58:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=QFoOwFQ77+VF+TGhDZezCBrJxh8U7FIxJkJegAbAmlc=; b=E3HdSHi4oxJsXnRTZ9FE340KnLR8wgdLKno/x/UM6M4QSQHXHr0x0jtUL+N7p4u6I5 3B9+tq4KD06oIDWjVrjCOFkm2JYIeNJpS2hkGZUSlAj5/hJ1dCXhgzT+K5uY+7F7xQUf CRQIxPA44wUGo1xgiOqyeyDmhoM9YKga6/qeNZvYFUu2DwQlNbQkIn1acE2+FSWLksZB JRcNAxlyPTH2PFqWgRBEHH3qmSMyN38YF+KtRxRXM1J5t6FXS98RsDGPaQqlWR7XNvuG MCjphoJyUuxURSrHTK7HzD0N0DTyFthUK7q5W/5r1xUIstKZ6OErO7MmsH9NCeePxeAR zkcw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkWglQz364N8GG+MXYoYD2sd+iL+ELtGpzm919Y4HIGcRKvAln850GsFpCkXGT4kxYuGwSIlkhpGMDebCJMQZJXn9TRY1ZOJpj66J63dyMe1gj2puIYykgLUhFd1OD4Fa35yWLjovx5BY5/9q9ezizLR4MC5w== X-Received: by 10.180.149.206 with SMTP id uc14mr158784872wib.57.1426456682505; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:58:02 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQDmMukgKb6D3w6PScfboPEX17W7Wp7ybXbw Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 23:58:01 +0200 Message-ID: <2bdf722a549fe11c08b5427bd929f1a9@mail.gmail.com> To: Anthony Ferrara Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Status] Scalar Type Declarations Voting Date Change From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > -----Original Message----- > From: Anthony Ferrara [mailto:ircmaxell@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 11:34 PM > To: internals@lists.php.net > Subject: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Status] Scalar Type Declarations Voting Date > Change > > However, it has become exceedingly clear to me that this good faith has > not > been reciprocated. The understanding that we had when both proposals > opened has now been violated. Rules have been broken and politics are > ensuing in an attempt to sabotage this proposal. Rather than working > together, "unofficial polls", backdoor politics and poor behavior have > created yet more toxicity. Anthony, Stop accusing me of refusing to work together, backdoor politics and poor behavior: - Refusing to work together: I tried to support numerous ways to evaluate Bob's RFC, all of which were opposed by you or other Dual STH supporters, for technicalities - valid or not. - Backdoor politics: None of that happening, which didn't stop you from strongly implying there was with your unprecedented low email from earlier today, suggesting 'irregularities' that weren't there. - Poor behavior: "Sneaky", "Abuse", "Political". Just 3 words that come to mind that you used against me or others in the last 3 weeks. Oh yeah, I'm guilty of the unofficial poll. At least one person that can't be blamed to be a blind follower of mine thinks there's nothing wrong with it (twitter.com/SaraMG/status/577225234375417856) > Rather than drag this vote on end, and rather than be accused of closing > "when convenient", I am choosing to move up the ending day to put an end > to the drama. Talk about changing the rules mid-flight. Zeev