Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84923 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 56138 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2015 21:33:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Mar 2015 21:33:01 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stelian.mocanita@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stelian.mocanita@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.52 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stelian.mocanita@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.52 mail-la0-f52.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.52] ([209.85.215.52:35385] helo=mail-la0-f52.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 54/4C-31306-B8AF5055 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:33:01 -0500 Received: by labjg1 with SMTP id jg1so25450648lab.2 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:32:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Oa4ZQenaia5ztko0ahpPfAWibVsddn/WMTZ+j15tpL0=; b=ieMbkEC+PCLSJTKS9IfDlyFt7I1hHcjbROZ6iSVjVj+/PeLcr/vTs/y5Lszt+qbrTH T2cu3o2smtG3uc59NCWRBkmyf1a6q0rqh1tj/xmtbRxCwTqsB6lnvwUoXFbkguc91pnO i/pDHB+NpaExn6Iwae2HWcOMftZzHYOhd9BuhdOU1P6CUTaAAWCfNqEWtg883gXqw7W7 IFNr0/7dXNfEupZ8u3gwAXhaIH5PNgbBFsUAhMmdyceWUgein1PoewZi8hykwhMobEtS Wg56yfcNHeCUiHByJ8P1hBuwDzoRV6/fBFwENFo9uwxbjbWjLSs9SupLoe+3mc27ssnc secQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.1.1 with SMTP id 1mr51476099lai.63.1426455176588; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:32:56 -0700 (PDT) Sender: stelian.mocanita@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.217.11 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:32:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 22:32:56 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: kzmMzvj6BotHdHeoYpAfbkSwpc8 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: Zeev Suraski , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013c6af016b58905115a7a3e Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Basic STH - status & unofficial poll From: stelianm@php.net (Stelian Mocanita) --089e013c6af016b58905115a7a3e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I voted no just because at this point no matter which way STH goes, it will end bad so I would rather not have it until people reconcile on something that works for all parties. On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 10:21 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Mar 16, 2015 8:03 AM, "Zeev Suraski" wrote: > > > > All, > > > > > > > > First, I decided not to propose Basic STH under my name, despite the fa= ct > I > > think that not committing to put it to a vote adds unneeded risk for > > delivering STH in PHP 7.0. Whether or not it=E2=80=99s put to a vote w= ill be up > to > > Bob. > > It is not up to any of us. If it is too late and as far as I remember it > is, then it is over for any new rfc. > > > Secondly, I do want to attempt to understand what will happen if & when > the > > Basic STH RFC goes to a vote at some later point in the future (which > > according to Bob, will happen if the Dual Mode RFC fails). If I see th= at > > Basic STH is going to fail, I=E2=80=99ll change my vote to be in favor = of the > Dual > > Mode STH RFC, call upon everyone to do the same, and retract my Coerci= ve > > mode RFC. > > Then do it now. Accept that your RFC failed and stop trying yet another > move to get it. This is really killing us. > > > > > This unofficial-non-RFC poll is here: > wiki.php.net/notrfc/scalar_type_hints > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Zeev > --089e013c6af016b58905115a7a3e--