Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84920 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 50321 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2015 21:23:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Mar 2015 21:23:18 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.49 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.49 mail-pa0-f49.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.49] ([209.85.220.49:35356] helo=mail-pa0-f49.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 15/0B-31306-648F5055 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:23:18 -0500 Received: by pabyw6 with SMTP id yw6so44423023pab.2 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:23:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=H3S38icYDvruf1IFseZ2hVzMGf+fP8NVgKuFKXS2dBM=; b=J0WdD/koliBNtic0FUbGke8rIF4eygvFjqnSptUtHjJcfMti+RWJmk4oW7TWxnvWPm tmrC0tbik6zUAtNzaB1UZia+paN69xJ1p3yAFXi3MbprgmUCDRJ+b4vL0UzdQEdN3Lka 8mxueuJjCiKg1wBIKTPc6cEWN+Iu1+3dZl494xqzWrukDFex3VWmZrRq2HrO/m/rxpaN IhCLPUIWo9Fg+fbMo/ctx9kGnYhgd6A8kDnXsegXGZz4X7ySDd+FFUidg0a6UswBa70L NTRoTHrHGJmQ7QRhPN4KHM0N7JcM/lpEWYgZ0un8cgelVOAe/Sw777smI3P/2s21fDJv 1uHA== X-Received: by 10.66.161.194 with SMTP id xu2mr66490629pab.48.1426454595636; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Stas-Air.local ([24.32.31.168]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d13sm7081903pdj.92.2015.03.15.14.23.14 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5505F841.5060500@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:23:13 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anthony Ferrara , "internals@lists.php.net" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Voting irregularities From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > So consider that discussion open. I guess this would have to happen sooner or later - sooner or later somebody, when the vote doesn't go their way, would cry "who are all these people? It can't be right they are all legit, there must be something wrong". I'm not sure though where this discussion is supposed to lead. What outcome should it produce? OK, you have singled out 12 people (some I recognize, some I do not, which means nothing except probably my memory is bad or I haven't met them) and called their votes "irregularity". I know if you did that to me I'd be annoyed, but of course they don't have to think like I do. Still, I don't see where this is going - are we to question or reject every vote from a person that votes rarely? Are we to institute stricter rules for who gets a vote, and if so, which ones? Are we just to throw out votes because RFC author doesn't accept them and without them the RFC passes and is it going to be a normal process for us from now on? Discussion of such sort, especially while singling out people for exclusion, is very dangerous and should be done very carefully. Even when not connected to a controversial topic and is bound to change the resulting outcome. When it does, I'm not sure it's a good place and time to start it at all. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com