Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84896 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10218 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2015 20:09:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Mar 2015 20:09:52 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 74.125.82.41 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.41 mail-wg0-f41.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.41] ([74.125.82.41:35112] helo=mail-wg0-f41.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 95/C2-31306-F07E5055 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 15:09:52 -0500 Received: by wgdm6 with SMTP id m6so24972466wgd.2 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 13:09:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=d/gNpPE5XbECdk8Ck6H0a2y13EmAnNZEFNvWJR33R/k=; b=Db/3OWB+tdWQQ16kIspv++oEAv08sgbVuoiR6TuG+ldBc1GXOF1kdvtpSstgW8L7Fs ZcC81RpbuSJujmqm55rODS9LKGoIhN/eVGk61Tga6EbpKVGVft6u/7KArWfLnYRhfuHQ Vr5btD1JLpqm/klxSOlCJvpK/FVlmfmYNi2dTqJkrOaYUHlzmYTPbFTrBCJwXfzzC8k8 MGxBOwpM2jBnS7ak8fW8a/GewjUj96CeZAhWAvC1ZDR2J9YQJj3ou9gSpCkVlMMOEXFw 7o6154Wwex8SK+hNjqLorWE41cYD4qc0ZBkT6sNM0UfEoEI77GlL7zHv/VFb44dstD8J o/hg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm9M7cvwPhIgH/Ci/KTSKDeK5h0uLHwHLBI3NTyBg53ooqCooZsEHTITK/5/WsaYjJYwSLNiURy0nsXiv0PEfMUFL9FhMCcxmkSbPL6pvKns6GXL8klUlpkv6nlzIF4AUtHN5apZiEEjM/4S3CQitlWtBxg2Q== X-Received: by 10.180.149.206 with SMTP id uc14mr158186363wib.57.1426450188102; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 13:09:48 -0700 (PDT) References: <325E0097-FD7E-4997-A95D-20C62368E162@zend.com> <55031C54.6060802@eliw.com> <7CE491F0-C243-4788-ADA2-5DA9DF1D1168@php.net> <332304ae552bfc635f999a8d73b505f0@mail.gmail.com> <85d81405ee1791efadea83cf734ebce3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQLg0UZIsq+15w5AwD0SDZXLD3VPogLMHcQTAaGt238CcCYc0AGWzLp/ApGYoQUDQRlseQIrE/I/AkSeeDQBy8bbHwGrcgw7AbasTkcB6yrv9AGotgiuAlOE8mkBmD4OiwIsnKKumfCKqtA= Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 22:09:47 +0200 Message-ID: <434bab74ed0ac3ded0c001ebe289e849@mail.gmail.com> To: Philip Sturgeon , Niklas Keller Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Basic Scalar Types From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > -----Original Message----- > From: Philip Sturgeon [mailto:pjsturgeon@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 10:07 PM > To: Niklas Keller > Cc: Levi Morrison; Bob Weinand; Anthony Ferrara; Zeev Suraski; Stelian > Mocanita; PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Basic Scalar Types > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Niklas Keller wrote: > > 2015-03-15 19:13 GMT+01:00 Levi Morrison : > >> I think allowing `null` for an `int` is an error. Converting a null > >> to zero on a type boundary is harmful in my opinion. > > > > I agree, `null` shouldn't be allowed for `int`. > > > >> -- > >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, > >> visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >> > > > > -- > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, > > visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > And this stuff is why we have minimum discussion periods, instead of just > trying to smash an RFC through because it resembles a version that we > liked > a while ago. > > The Basic STH RFC should go to vote - as Bob has said a few times - if the > Dual STH fails. Please do not try and take it over Zeev. It's reckless, > and > feckless. If I do, that has nothing to do with what you point out; I'll wait for a discussion period exactly as Bob intends to. Although at this point I'm strongly leaning towards not doing that and hoping Bob will change his mind and give that proposal the fair chance it deserves. Zeev