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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 20:56:20 +0100 (CET)
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Voting irregularities
From: mails@thomasbley.de ("Thomas Bley")

> Which post says that we're turning PHP into Java

I think there are people who want to switch from Java to PHP, maybe they feel easier with declare(strict...).
Also in the past, some companies switched from PHP to Java because they wanted more strictness in their backend code.

I don't like declare(strict...), but we should give it a chance in practice and then every userland developer can decide on his own if his programming style fits to it, or not.
For me personally, I must admit that I am not using namespaces, traits and goto, but almost all other features of PHP :)

Regards
Thomas


Derick Rethans wrote on 15.03.2015 20:07:

> Rowan Collins <rowan.collins@gmail.com> schreef op 15 maart 2015 17:59:17
> GMT+00:00:
>>On 15/03/2015 14:19, Anthony Ferrara wrote:
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I ran some numbers on the current votes of the dual-mode vote right
>>> now. There were a number of voters that I didn't recognize. So I
>>> decided to pull some stats.
>>>
>>> The following voters never voted before the dual-mode RFC went up:
>>>
>>> dom - no
>>> eliw - no
>>> kguest - yes
>>> kk - no
>>> nohn - no
>>> oliver - yes
>>> richsage - yes
>>> sammywg - no
>>> spriebsch - no
>>> srain - no
>>> theseer - no
>>> zimt - no
>>>
>>> Some of these names I recognize from list (sammywg and eliw), but
>>many I do not.
>>>
>>> The interesting thing happens when you look at the voting direction.
>>>
>>> Currently, the RFC is slightly losing 70:37 (65.4%).
>>>
>>> If we look at percentages, 4.2% of yes voters have never voted in a
>>> prior RFC. But a whopping 24.3% of no voters have never voted before.
>>
>>I think calling this an "irregularity" is going a bit far. 
> I don't think it's going to far, if you have people with no clue writing this:
> 
> https://plus.google.com/+KristianK%C3%B6hntopp/posts/ijoDNH2M8mB
> 
> Which post says that we're turning PHP into Java. And to this misguided FUD
> post, that actively asks people to vote no, I can quite easily attribute a few
> more no votes of people that had never voted before...
> 
> Too late to tighten up the rules for this one, but something is definitely not
> right with the current process.
> 
> Cheers,
> Derick
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