Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84879 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 83073 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2015 19:20:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Mar 2015 19:20:01 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=marcio.web2@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=marcio.web2@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.180 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: marcio.web2@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.180 mail-lb0-f180.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.180] ([209.85.217.180:35143] helo=mail-lb0-f180.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id AB/9C-29489-06BD5055 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:20:01 -0500 Received: by lbcgn8 with SMTP id gn8so7982724lbc.2 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 12:19:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=pT2snh1a2U8FBai5GkcH1qkzXzNoN+RpGcxsQ6isnFA=; b=nLX1ZiP87XhLC/3vcUlStGdSxWuoVW5XW6WoVrSEW7jF3yP1KiJJCLnxXiRj+SZWyt wB8dKRDHJ5lkJXsvu2/YAdOuG8RAkPPONMgwF2HHKUzVhCLBQyYeL+voFwtA9TH3PqXB 2g9JG1lJ1meSroHhWl06aHEFehFDlH/cmhryzrfbBxDwTZG3enLU39Wkb/m8lmaIiJvL TpaA/ztCWIrZIVqpbV7P5cTEaNl7BIHr4laxhqy9Z32Mtm8FeYlTW/3e0SugHtXuaztq qmG6GeIG3emZsaff/y2yGTE0qSuvkyT62bi3hy2Lsz9Y3WJ3MO446Qoj43I7latCtQWE +RXQ== X-Received: by 10.112.137.164 with SMTP id qj4mr40071089lbb.17.1426447197860; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 12:19:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.118.169 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 12:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: marcio3w@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:19:37 -0300 Message-ID: To: Dan Ackroyd Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0115fd1c84f9690511589ef9 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][VOTE] Strict Argument Count On Function Calls From: marcio.web2@gmail.com (Marcio Almada) --089e0115fd1c84f9690511589ef9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi 2015-03-15 8:33 GMT-03:00 Dan Ackroyd : > On 15 March 2015 at 06:59, Marcio Almada wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I received some requests to update the RFC with more information about BC > > breaks + possible minor adjustments regarding dynamic function calls. > > > Please can you stop abusing the RFC process? > > This RFC is attempting to change the language. You received the > information about the BC breaks weeks ago, they aren't new items that > you just heard about for the first time today.. You opened the voting > and then closed it immediately when you realised the vote wasn't going > to sail through. > > There is no abuse. This is not true, I truly received a suggestion from Bob Weiland and decided to consider it. 4:3 is not a sign that a voting will pass or not, it's only 7 votes and we usually get ~52 votes during a 14 days voting period. > You're now making changes to the RFC and proposing to re-open voting > on the same day. How are people meant to have time to read and think > about the changes? > > It's a **minor** change, as said before. This was the most prudent attitude. > It's also going to be impossible for people to try the patch out, or > to measure it for performance hit. > > Performance has never been an issue with this RFC. You probably meant "bc break" not "performance hit", and the suggested change about dynamic calls Bob did, if accepted by, is a minor change that will actually reduce the BC breaks not enlarge it. > The problem this RFC fixes is not a big enough problem to justify > making decisions about the language at the last minute, particularly > as the last version of the RFC I read breaks a whole load of valid > code. > > A lot of people tell me the opposite. I listened to your opinion many times and disagreed with it. Please don't express your disagreement with the RFC by mixing it with false accusations towards me. There is a huge gap between both attitudes. The disagreement is ok, but the false accusations coming from you make me sad. > cheers > Dan > Marcio --089e0115fd1c84f9690511589ef9--