Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84862 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 51160 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2015 18:11:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Mar 2015 18:11:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.212.175 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.175 mail-wi0-f175.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.175] ([209.85.212.175:38642] helo=mail-wi0-f175.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 31/16-29489-33BC5055 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 13:11:04 -0500 Received: by wifj2 with SMTP id j2so25521560wif.1 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:10:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=H/oZHEHaM7K1I1/34NhM8E6PbXAMilvylIsmp9WP2v8=; b=cViUpqOIJNMJPrrSysbIJmjXysw/rIXwT0z9sj8cz3SoeH5YAC3BJxtP6jWtodl6n8 Ap0qPZH8ghbPhnGrrb1T8KBqUSUk+UAbLSPxmvMb0IsX6Y4lEDnwdw9BX3Jm/O3D2/3K fFh9MDIT3tal609bqIgoc2IP+Cx8++Q3HpqwQPdHMJfDJlZNtkgzDGkL1gQXXCSsR9/+ BbuWAB0Tq8vGvlc2NwE1d10zY95Lzku7deFvT3ywyMyYuZ1dwY+cr8Q9CBDAeIQxuxWf UqfQBFIecFlf9loFAsVLpLC/bIIeUU134xo7R7lZhjgcvHOfQr2Ny73OzRvKqF/xZ6L1 yjmg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk5dRyaLiJFwNb+32Cyb12kf1WIBL7eLumHMhKdMEHJwcc8MuCSHWlaucK8mGNnPp9OwIOe0hV3NK/K1I5DjiIhW9K32/VoUlp7s5/P6veGSnrC1mio3UQCQzZfVmDTIbPdw+G4EfQdULWVN/dtVtoUYrX/SA== X-Received: by 10.180.198.110 with SMTP id jb14mr114358381wic.57.1426443055998; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:10:55 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQKV59C6R/g00R7Uu5aQCj/uhXIapAFVjcT/Aheh6vebd1w/UA== Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 20:10:55 +0200 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Pavel_Kou=C5=99il?= Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [INFO] Basic Scalar Types From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > -----Original Message----- > From: Pavel Kou=C5=99il [mailto:pajousek@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 7:52 PM > To: Zeev Suraski > Cc: Bob Weinand; PHP Internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [INFO] Basic Scalar Types > > I like your idea, but there's a problem with this (apart from the thing > that it's > not supposed to be in vote for 7.0 if you go by the rules, based on > opinion of > some people here). > > You are saying "we would have given the community at large something > that's closer to what it really wants", but the people maintaining PHP > vote on > that, not the community and userland developers (and that's a problem wit= h > most of the features here, that the "direction" in which PHP evolves is > basically chosen by C programmers*). That is factually incorrect. C coders are a small minority amongst the voters on this RFC - you can check it yourself by clicking on each voter an= d seeing what Karma they have. Also, the majority of C contributors also develop or developed in PHP as well (myself included). Zeev