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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 18:45:06 +0200
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To: Philip Sturgeon <pjsturgeon@gmail.com>
Cc: Levi Morrison <levim@php.net>, Michael Wallner <mike@php.net>, internals@lists.php.net
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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Voting irregularities
From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip Sturgeon [mailto:pjsturgeon@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 6:31 PM
> To: Zeev Suraski
> Cc: Levi Morrison; Michael Wallner; internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Voting irregularities
>
> Literally nothing Anthony said was ridiculous or a conspiracy theory.


Phil,

I disagree.  'New' voters voting sharply in favor of No strongly implies
some sort of foul play.  Why break it down otherwise?  "I'm not saying that
all of these votes are bad" is equivalent to saying "I am saying that some
of these votes are bad".  It's further strengthened by providing numbers of
where this RFC would be at if these votes were discounted, as if it's on the
table (that, I would argue, is the ridiculous part).  Also, it really
doesn't matter what you or I think about it.  What matters is what everyone
thinks about it.  We already have one person understanding this email as a
reason to look into when these accounts were created, and judging from the
Twitter messages, he's not alone in suspecting some sort of foul play.

I absolutely do think we should revisit our voting practices, but absolutely
not in the context of a specific RFC, and not mid-flight.  The quiet period
after PHP 7's RFCs close could be an appropriate time for that.

Zeev