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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 09:57:38 -0600
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To: Michael Wallner <mike@php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Voting irregularities
From: levim@php.net (Levi Morrison)

On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Michael Wallner <mike@php.net> wrote:
>
> On 15 03 2015, at 16:23, Levi Morrison <levim@php.net> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Michael Wallner <mike@php.net> wrote:
>
>
> On 15 03 2015, at 15:19, Anthony Ferrara <ircmaxell@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I ran some numbers on the current votes of the dual-mode vote right
> now. There were a number of voters that I didn't recognize. So I
> decided to pull some stats.
>
> The following voters never voted before the dual-mode RFC went up:
>
> dom - no
> eliw - no
> kguest - yes
> kk - no
> nohn - no
> oliver - yes
> richsage - yes
> sammywg - no
> spriebsch - no
> srain - no
> theseer - no
> zimt - no
>
> Some of these names I recognize from list (sammywg and eliw), but many I =
do
> not.
>
> The interesting thing happens when you look at the voting direction.
>
> Currently, the RFC is slightly losing 70:37 (65.4%).
>
> If we look at percentages, 4.2% of yes voters have never voted in a
> prior RFC. But a whopping 24.3% of no voters have never voted before.
>
> If we adjust the votes to remove these "never voted" accounts, it
> stands at 67:28. Which is 70.5%. Which is basically where the vote was
> prior to the competing RFC opening.
>
> I'm not saying that all of these are bad votes. Nor that they
> shouldn't be counted. I think it does raise a significant question
> around the voting practices.
>
> Something that I think we need to discuss as a group.
>
> So consider that discussion open.
>
>
> Jeez, that is becoming ridiculous. So, if you=E2=80=99re that good in cou=
nting, how
> many did not vote before STHv0.3?
>
>
> Is there a way to check when someone got a php.net account/karma?
>
>
> http://people.php.net
>

I am aware of this, but unless I just missed it that site doesn't show
*when* they got an account.