Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84833 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 571 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2015 15:30:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Mar 2015 15:30:34 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mike.php.net@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mike.php.net@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.212.177 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mike.php.net@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.177 mail-wi0-f177.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.177] ([209.85.212.177:35335] helo=mail-wi0-f177.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 37/EB-29489-895A5055 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 10:30:33 -0500 Received: by wibdy8 with SMTP id dy8so20192279wib.0 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 08:30:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=Nq/YMbsgPuLbLxbC5WLrEqMk+4O3YJTRf8+wy2KrdIs=; b=UG9FdYGD3HJKzAnPxTD9Jy9HChNKMOhHgyRd7F+BrPlOksKWn8y0vswxQVDqjpRWZH KVJaVmllssGdxmzPs5ttnrYMxUAWikdoTNwyu+eq4UtrgKDd+SAFtz9kxnWAUWTrA1P/ +12MdOB+XMnkCDHpANwu/4oIbhotgb+j3g2FPgbfdatP6hX/P+vrcdB/GV/OL36K0Sqi VqNdtqQYZm9/+cjNr7+AXHs+p2LxqGZmUg0PjNNcqOvPRteQ4s57ggzVoqofQy303JiF ATL98QXwair/RmqtEG1QNuFte3FwhEbjQAaQ2Br9/AnJjev3+IUUFcSfiRLJ2gxIhZ5d zHRA== X-Received: by 10.180.14.66 with SMTP id n2mr152834781wic.50.1426433429415; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 08:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lepisma.bemi (89-104-28-113.customer.bnet.at. [89.104.28.113]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dn7sm11374284wid.12.2015.03.15.08.30.27 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 15 Mar 2015 08:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Michael Wallner Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_86E374DF-6CB3-4528-8B1C-0215690F9BDC" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:30:26 +0100 Cc: Anthony Ferrara , "internals@lists.php.net" Message-ID: <2D43D245-31F0-4A5A-8B4B-DA6FF9B1C29D@php.net> References: <07EB6CE3-B002-42C8-9D5B-C53602609B0A@php.net> To: Levi Morrison X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Voting irregularities From: mike@php.net (Michael Wallner) --Apple-Mail=_86E374DF-6CB3-4528-8B1C-0215690F9BDC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 15 03 2015, at 16:23, Levi Morrison wrote: >=20 > On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Michael Wallner wrote: >>=20 >>> On 15 03 2015, at 15:19, Anthony Ferrara = wrote: >>>=20 >>> All, >>>=20 >>> I ran some numbers on the current votes of the dual-mode vote right >>> now. There were a number of voters that I didn't recognize. So I >>> decided to pull some stats. >>>=20 >>> The following voters never voted before the dual-mode RFC went up: >>>=20 >>> dom - no >>> eliw - no >>> kguest - yes >>> kk - no >>> nohn - no >>> oliver - yes >>> richsage - yes >>> sammywg - no >>> spriebsch - no >>> srain - no >>> theseer - no >>> zimt - no >>>=20 >>> Some of these names I recognize from list (sammywg and eliw), but = many I do not. >>>=20 >>> The interesting thing happens when you look at the voting direction. >>>=20 >>> Currently, the RFC is slightly losing 70:37 (65.4%). >>>=20 >>> If we look at percentages, 4.2% of yes voters have never voted in a >>> prior RFC. But a whopping 24.3% of no voters have never voted = before. >>>=20 >>> If we adjust the votes to remove these "never voted" accounts, it >>> stands at 67:28. Which is 70.5%. Which is basically where the vote = was >>> prior to the competing RFC opening. >>>=20 >>> I'm not saying that all of these are bad votes. Nor that they >>> shouldn't be counted. I think it does raise a significant question >>> around the voting practices. >>>=20 >>> Something that I think we need to discuss as a group. >>>=20 >>> So consider that discussion open. >>=20 >> Jeez, that is becoming ridiculous. So, if you=E2=80=99re that good in = counting, how many did not vote before STHv0.3? >=20 > Is there a way to check when someone got a php.net account/karma? http://people.php.net --Apple-Mail=_86E374DF-6CB3-4528-8B1C-0215690F9BDC--