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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 23:41:55 +0100
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To: Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][PRE-VOTE] Reserving More Types in PHP 7
From: me@kelunik.com (Niklas Keller)

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2015-03-14 23:30 GMT+01:00 Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com>:

> On 03/15/2015 07:31 AM, Philip Sturgeon wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Bob Weinand <bobwei9@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Am 14.03.2015 um 10:21 schrieb Pavel Kou=C5=99il <pajousek@gmail.com>=
:
> >>>
> >>> On Saturday, March 14, 2015, Levi Morrison <levim@php.net> wrote:
> >>>> RFC Link: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/reserve_more_types_in_php_7
> >>>>
> >>>> The proposal has changed from the original. It no longer reserves th=
e
> >>>> aliases out of the interest of reserving the smallest useful,
> >>>> uncontroversial subset. Some people want to remove aliases for these
> >>>> types so in the interest of being as uncontroversial as possible I a=
m
> >>>> no longer proposing to remove them.
> >>>>
> >>>> This will go into voting on March 15th unless something comes up
> >>>> between now and then to persuade me otherwise.
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> why do you consider a "true" and "false" as a type? It's not a type.
> it's a
> >>> value?
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> Pavel Kouril
> >>
> >> These aren't types. But useful for e.g. union types (int|false). [By
> the way they're internally handled as different types=E2=80=A6 but that's=
 an
> implementation detail=E2=80=A6]
> >>
> >> Also, he doesn't call them anywhere types, it's just the title.
> >>
> >> Bob
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> >
> > This is a solid plan. Vote this and everyone should +1 it, so if this
> > scalar squabble results in a a 0-0-0 score we can at least add scalars
> > later.
>
> This is not quite that obvious I don't think. If
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/context_sensitive_lexer isn't ready in time for
> 7.0 and we don't need to reserve these for one of the STH RFCs then we
> should hold off and do it alongside the context sensitive lexer change
> or we are going to needlessly break a ton of code including Drupal8:
>
>
>
> https://github.com/drupal/drupal/blob/8.0.x/core/lib/Drupal/Component/Uti=
lity/String.php#L15
>
> -Rasmus
>

Rasmus, the context sensitive lexer doesn't change anything for Drupal.
Support for class names has been dropped, see
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/context_sensitive_lexer#rejected_features

Regards, Niklas

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