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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][PRE-VOTE] Reserving More Types in PHP 7
From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf)

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On 03/15/2015 07:31 AM, Philip Sturgeon wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Bob Weinand <bobwei9@hotmail.com> wrot=
e:
>>> Am 14.03.2015 um 10:21 schrieb Pavel Kou=C5=99il <pajousek@gmail.com>=
:
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 14, 2015, Levi Morrison <levim@php.net> wrote:
>>>> RFC Link: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/reserve_more_types_in_php_7
>>>>
>>>> The proposal has changed from the original. It no longer reserves th=
e
>>>> aliases out of the interest of reserving the smallest useful,
>>>> uncontroversial subset. Some people want to remove aliases for these=

>>>> types so in the interest of being as uncontroversial as possible I a=
m
>>>> no longer proposing to remove them.
>>>>
>>>> This will go into voting on March 15th unless something comes up
>>>> between now and then to persuade me otherwise.
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>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> why do you consider a "true" and "false" as a type? It's not a type. =
it's a
>>> value?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Pavel Kouril
>>
>> These aren't types. But useful for e.g. union types (int|false). [By t=
he way they're internally handled as different types=E2=80=A6 but that's =
an implementation detail=E2=80=A6]
>>
>> Also, he doesn't call them anywhere types, it's just the title.
>>
>> Bob
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>=20
> This is a solid plan. Vote this and everyone should +1 it, so if this
> scalar squabble results in a a 0-0-0 score we can at least add scalars
> later.

This is not quite that obvious I don't think. If
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/context_sensitive_lexer isn't ready in time for
7.0 and we don't need to reserve these for one of the STH RFCs then we
should hold off and do it alongside the context sensitive lexer change
or we are going to needlessly break a ton of code including Drupal8:


https://github.com/drupal/drupal/blob/8.0.x/core/lib/Drupal/Component/Uti=
lity/String.php#L15

-Rasmus



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