Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84730 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31917 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2015 22:30:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Mar 2015 22:30:14 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stelian.mocanita@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stelian.mocanita@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.49 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stelian.mocanita@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.49 mail-la0-f49.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.49] ([209.85.215.49:34321] helo=mail-la0-f49.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EB/85-34457-5F463055 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 17:30:14 -0500 Received: by lagg8 with SMTP id g8so392762lag.1 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 15:30:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=MuN4gWx1xxiQFqABvHS7JktBdmqjHqKkPj2okGGxeFM=; b=cZFaQXER4NeqV82uTNUTZZ0YtPy0t9xgvsH7teCJEROHJ7H+qTBCYE2yYiGcT2mj0j hNdrV2QpccCJMYmd+qy5+DqQ5r3LFEWG78yvgaGqGROcc03fRWe6Ft+8HB9J9ud7bAP6 RvMRDktVFWFaAL4TksRRVHAtsi5f9D5Wldn339VA+2JHAnnVsrs0q9iuMfX6tCDZRNEm 4qE3kHW1Z9NwVBPADyoJgwOdIIv2+6YiuCkkQA4i+ErOud4DsprIDsF4fU+4/Wcgmnmf bVFxGC29ZR8imp8RJRpysDJpgc1awBoCnEoRa9kfaKoDBLVLrv3KTanwTpr+t9Ei9aCU YBew== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.1.1 with SMTP id 1mr44488814lai.63.1426285810544; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 15:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Sender: stelian.mocanita@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.217.11 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 15:30:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <325E0097-FD7E-4997-A95D-20C62368E162@zend.com> <55031C54.6060802@eliw.com> <7CE491F0-C243-4788-ADA2-5DA9DF1D1168@php.net> <332304ae552bfc635f999a8d73b505f0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 23:30:10 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5z3ifhgP3hJekbZSVMyVvmjqL7o Message-ID: To: "guilhermeblanco@gmail.com" Cc: Pierre Joye , Zeev Suraski , PHP internals , Benjamin Eberlei Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013c6af015f7a70511330bd8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Basic Scalar Types From: stelianm@php.net (Stelian Mocanita) --089e013c6af015f7a70511330bd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So sticking to the rules is now "playing law firm". The RFC Andreea proposed has been modified several times before going to vote. And we're not voting on her RFC, we're voting on Bob's that was proposed 2 days ago. I have a feeling that this will go to vote tomorrow though. On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 11:26 PM, guilhermeblanco@gmail.com < guilhermeblanco@gmail.com> wrote: > And none answered me... is this RFC gonna be allowed to enter on voting > phase for 7.0 or not? > > This drastically changes my voted on STH v5 which ends EOD today. > > []s, > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Stelian Mocanita > wrote: > >> Zeev, allow me to understand how this goes. Bob's discussions on the RFC >> started 2 days ago. Based on the current rules, the RFC can only go to >> vote >> after 2 weeks. That means in 12 days starting now. >> >> So we are either violating the RFC rules by pushing the vote tomorrow or >> we're >> delaying PHP7 for another 2 weeks maybe yet another TH RFC passes? >> >> Pointing at number 6 from https://wiki.php.net/rfc/howto >> >> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 11:07 PM, Pierre Joye >> wrote: >> >> > On Mar 14, 2015 9:03 AM, "Zeev Suraski" wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > Maybe I was na=C3=AFve, but I thought I had a better way to make bot= h weak >> & >> > > strict camps happy, >> > >> > By dropping strict despite all discussions, proposing a pandara box rf= c >> by >> > changing the casting rules and now suddenly proposing to go vote to ye= t >> > another "perfect" RFC? Sorry, it does not help anyone and damages php, >> > creates yet more issues. This is not a good call. >> > >> > > > > -- > Guilherme Blanco > MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com > GTalk: guilhermeblanco > Toronto - ON/Canada > --089e013c6af015f7a70511330bd8--