Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84724 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 20765 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2015 21:55:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Mar 2015 21:55:19 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.212.180 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.180 mail-wi0-f180.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.180] ([209.85.212.180:38537] helo=mail-wi0-f180.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id ED/53-34457-6CC53055 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 16:55:19 -0500 Received: by widex7 with SMTP id ex7so211447wid.3 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 14:55:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=xkIsJzv0ns9SrltaRG2V38vFWHRG3eG67SOhJsZ74fQ=; b=gbE2qPz0/Kyi3JAdYsDiHNRT5ibfCAIYrbX3ZoQzFMxHHudJ2fdhhG36+/X/7V6DYv PSSHvZeW9DOEAFoakelc6Dhf76uofSRN0TR4UgzPsQ0znyAo4bQkg6g5Xa8+u2s9ga76 gweB7iqMGQ/3pB/19YpulkLEhQcXpeV2qOfz4mBf13r4QxIOCFomQCAqe5P9F3hZ8do9 08iCIFzHr8k2QLastikLm1VSImpdmSpoL0njkKtvaKu9/YH2BJAhoKK+PAyfKWkxGSnk xw97v2Ggz2ocC2wZ2zrfk86U6w9Cjb7DeccIPUK07YFjCnIm9Y3aZnSKgpd1+Qpk5RCm N+vA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmxYYDJOe3Pyi4rtitsM2f6JhgJ2HsNAPdFh5xi0iFICd4JK1MuJCPloHSf7suYy4anG9xssv0MzXFy3HP/z1QC2AeGwA29WPsoQn93bDPDmY2vXpzaOryAtHU+JVU8pd5u1uSOLAQmEBZSWseTRYJIYM4gTQ== X-Received: by 10.194.79.226 with SMTP id m2mr99937534wjx.60.1426283715314; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 14:55:15 -0700 (PDT) References: <325E0097-FD7E-4997-A95D-20C62368E162@zend.com> <55031C54.6060802@eliw.com> <7CE491F0-C243-4788-ADA2-5DA9DF1D1168@php.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQLg0UZIsq+15w5AwD0SDZXLD3VPogLMHcQTAaGt238CcCYc0AGWzLp/ApGYoQUDQRlseQIWQX7imnceO7A= Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 23:55:14 +0200 Message-ID: <1a6dfa50beb1b55b5dc2a313a8c2d86f@mail.gmail.com> To: Philip Sturgeon Cc: PHP Internals List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Basic Scalar Types From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > -----Original Message----- > From: Philip Sturgeon [mailto:pjsturgeon@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 11:16 PM > To: Zeev Suraski > Cc: Derick Rethans; Eli; guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; Stelian Mocanita; PHP > Internals List > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Basic Scalar Types > > But seriously Zeev, I read this as "lets do literally anything we can, > regardless > of rules and process to avoid having the RFC that is currently winning > actually > pass. > > I don't want to assume this is a sneaky, underhand tactic, but it sure > does > look quite like it. Philip, Marcio, You both raised the same issue so here's a combined answer. We can go to a vote on Bob's RFC tomorrow, as it's practically identical to Andrea's v0.1 RFC. No need to prolong any timelines. Philip, given I said that if I see no alternative RFC passing I'll change my vote on the Dual Mode from no to yes, I'd appreciate if you stopped (very strongly) implying there's anything sneaky or underhand about it. I will do my best to get the Dual Mode RFC to pass, but not before I do my best to get alternatives to it pass - because I think it's bad for PHP. Let's stop the personal attacks, please. Zeev