Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84706 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 84272 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2015 18:33:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Mar 2015 18:33:27 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stelian.mocanita@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stelian.mocanita@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.172 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stelian.mocanita@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.172 mail-lb0-f172.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.172] ([209.85.217.172:38110] helo=mail-lb0-f172.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 47/6F-32208-57D23055 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 13:33:26 -0500 Received: by lbiz12 with SMTP id z12so24705313lbi.5 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 11:33:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+FzqFIa3kQbHZ8jG/8rd8XWhHW4z4RPNVgi3ffiJdS4=; b=RzgKIjVmfe0OC+BSzaPQ0w+6Db5sLJb3BQ4MhtzZDHGMKV4K741F7j83ekdiK0qkT/ tO7gyniwS9/7v66xxbiGxib4hehkPGmQPkQWF8i63NayEcSem4r5O60RQbGaGYqd0QE8 s2BbmBiOv/GUeUJZy5OXwP2aXWKz1aZS8w/1cLNjLoG7aAgZFclV/s3jY3JZLbY3A5ws v2rVm+yvNputgewX+nPThY0UPsTuRe0XsSjKH70LXhXKRuBNOGs7Tv0KN36/YNZc36rA qIpHIX/K8CG/FNk8Mv+XUTYpB5wRwlzHvN0A0W+pQHN4oovSTWNZW2Qsho+d/zFq5Uc7 jImw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.22.67 with SMTP id b3mr43628941laf.117.1426271602505; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 11:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Sender: stelian.mocanita@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.217.11 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 11:33:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55031C54.6060802@eliw.com> References: <325E0097-FD7E-4997-A95D-20C62368E162@zend.com> <55031C54.6060802@eliw.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 19:33:22 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: vMaUNGDSjWB049oY6IOYYmNUp5w Message-ID: To: Eli Cc: PHP Internals List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0158b86e38ffcd05112fbc04 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Basic Scalar Types From: stelianm@php.net (Stelian Mocanita) --089e0158b86e38ffcd05112fbc04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 So to get it clear for everyone: the right way is for internals to ignore community as a whole, stick to their own views and implement something nobody actually wants - just because there is no time - on the idea that "something is better than nothing"? Without pointing any fingers it sure looks like a stalling tactic where someone eventually gets what they want. Highly disappointed on this outcome. On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Eli wrote: > Not that another +1 is needed, but I'm with Andi here. I do personally > like this 3rd proposal as an option, if nothing else because it > implements the 'simpler base' at the moment, and allows us, once people > are used to this being part of the language, to continue to evolve > later. And that evolution can be based upon our real world experience > of using this 'base level' of typehinting for a while. > > Versus the more complicated versions, of which both Zeev's and Anthony's > are. In each their own way. > > Eli > > On 3/13/15 1:17 AM, Andi Gutmans wrote: > > Agree and I would vote +1 on this even if I'd prefer coercive. It is a > > very valid option for a 7.0 and it is future proof. > > -- > | Eli White | http://eliw.com/ | Twitter: EliW | > > > --089e0158b86e38ffcd05112fbc04--