Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84696 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 65877 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2015 17:25:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Mar 2015 17:25:07 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=marcio.web2@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=marcio.web2@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.176 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: marcio.web2@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.176 mail-lb0-f176.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.176] ([209.85.217.176:43529] helo=mail-lb0-f176.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 96/DB-32208-07D13055 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 12:25:05 -0500 Received: by lbvp9 with SMTP id p9so24259652lbv.10 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 10:25:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=jtfDWNUDtQk1dlc5Bzt88fqYIDCFEinKCIM3f11uTFU=; b=dWcETRKWcjRVPZssbz4wXIkfqK87hQeVfXRDpqkX+3tpzXySKLemqGx690bH7lDTUD yzcnslkDnyI21briWX8j3A+TsGMoivBtnr9gTBnNymIZ9wM8c4pMHPOJ4/0UvUAI43qv yxmTv+iBXscXU+7n1dvVe59GhyNtog6JXJETqYI3zku4yazIWpJHSWKWAhTRC9T2V/AR nGlI472BRLKe8QgcqUN6kVHLc4NBxURJJ9xAJV9CPaBM8I/84SkTsyxCEBqT0zi9bsyB xPUMrxUKj+UJXmLR+soWSlD+f9cfAgUb7PngmXRqHqq2XLN2jXBht7/lm81Meuse2ymT dytw== X-Received: by 10.152.178.197 with SMTP id da5mr45439024lac.56.1426267501630; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 10:25:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.118.169 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 10:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: marcio3w@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 14:24:41 -0300 Message-ID: To: Anthony Ferrara Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11340c68ca1bcd05112ec75c Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] A plea for unity on scalar types From: marcio.web2@gmail.com (Marcio Almada) --001a11340c68ca1bcd05112ec75c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, 2015-03-13 12:45 GMT-03:00 Anthony Ferrara : > All, > [...] > I respectfully ask Zeev to retract his current proposal as it's > currently failing with 68% of voters voting against it (currently > 16:34). Without extending the timeline for 7, there's very little > chance of it passing. So rather than dragging out the entire process > needlessly for 2 more weeks, can we just finally be done with it? > > Thanks, > > Anthony > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > At the time I'm witting this, the "Coercive Scalar Types" RFC needs 52 "yes" votes to reach minimum ratio. This RFC was well discussed and people justified their "no" votes quite verbosely on the respective thread. Being practical, we all know it has no chances to pass. By keeping this vote running we put in risk all the advancements that are already so close to be consolidated. Loosing this opportunity would be damaging for both the major part of the community and the RFC process itself, IMMO, specially because the dual mode RFC already reached super majority and the voting would be closed today. The concurrent RFC, that is now clearly rejected, had its chance and failed. I agree that dropping the vote for "Coercive Scalar Typehints" is the logical (even noble) attitude in such context. Please let's not drag this situation for more two weeks for nothing. Regards, M=C3=A1rcio --001a11340c68ca1bcd05112ec75c--