Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84692 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 56573 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2015 16:51:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Mar 2015 16:51:18 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stelian.mocanita@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stelian.mocanita@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.44 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stelian.mocanita@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.44 mail-la0-f44.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.44] ([209.85.215.44:35317] helo=mail-la0-f44.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 47/0A-32208-58513055 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 11:51:18 -0500 Received: by lams18 with SMTP id s18so23946675lam.2 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 09:51:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=fq7+7dvBv/csxbc+Toz3kmiclCMufVjzZk+3uaIiBe0=; b=QpCzWCZBoKrTyP9RDmGIchCu8oJuKP6WOFGqTzy7+jlNy0bnSfcAtIkrpAeSC+GWUF 3nyPOqfGvO6fDmeI3zPyBadFDSKEiBZxwTM8vSgrJrRVycSZYGuDgG/Loiv4+PBUcF2b aFWTolxfXTTvJIcbZnh4FMxFANlTbrKo17EhSd2g+8/MoUdx+SRq9GMjHeUOU38z9UUg bl8Loje8JdxsDGVT677IJf8elAioueRKFEMMJsTuqg9/eCtjzgFV0pJe0C4oou7Y8QDQ IJSOVd2B8JSgK0qHXCPQ7jeI9uyyWvxEKrjCpA41ZNEZsMOpW5ma/ztzzK8oaS1dPp5i BOsQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.243.4 with SMTP id wu4mr44438854lac.33.1426265474579; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 09:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Sender: stelian.mocanita@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.217.11 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 09:51:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <45.98.32208.80C03055@pb1.pair.com> References: <45.98.32208.80C03055@pb1.pair.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 17:51:14 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: TXzv4k_EvGI--veNDrg2phWIrIs Message-ID: To: Johannes Ott Cc: PHP Internals List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134282cf7c4ee05112e4e71 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: A plea for unity on scalar types From: stelianm@php.net (Stelian Mocanita) --001a1134282cf7c4ee05112e4e71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thanks Anthony for the thorough explanation and your view on the matter, highly appreciated. I am sure that long-term developers have gone through both ends of the strong types, either loving their lack while picking up php for the first time, either cursing it's lack later on along the way. As you mentioned you can pretty much do anything in PHP in both small setups or even "enterprise" - god I hate that word - so it would make sense to have something that gives both parties what they want. Having said this, I am truly hoping we can put an end to all this and have your current RFC in and move along. Regards Stelian On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Johannes Ott wrote: > Thanks for the clear statement, which lights up the fog a little bit for. > > Watching out for a scalar typehints feature for round about 10 years > without knowing about this internal list, I always was wondering what > can be so complicated to implement it, because I already evaluated some > different ways how to do this for my thesis. > > I already thought about a political reason for that. I'm with you that > your Dual RFC is the right solution to satisfy the needs of all of the > three mentioned groups in my opinion as well. > > I would give a clear +1 to it, but I don't have any voting karma yet! > > Regards > -- > DerOetzi > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > --001a1134282cf7c4ee05112e4e71--