Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84620 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31036 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2015 09:23:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Mar 2015 09:23:27 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.212.179 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.179 mail-wi0-f179.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.179] ([209.85.212.179:38551] helo=mail-wi0-f179.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E6/7B-64353-E0B51055 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 04:23:27 -0500 Received: by widex7 with SMTP id ex7so45203517wid.3 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 02:23:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=uQqho26SC/9+hkvp815/yOI+fLXLhpprEHEo2Iviaf0=; b=A4I/R9SYY6BqiTBT/PyjaT2Ao/m7G3cCu19GNR2ZVyWcPSIekjiv15oivOLAuWE1m8 dirBfTZ0W77kh8TsvI/oplXPF4K236EBvdEHfvt3ewRB+2q1COsom3t0D1y1NIRIWInr uEg0gaiVwDusndCi6gO/M2qfMpttxYN6MAlJl/T5s/Itc+/QCemVYZf45E3VDT+uGAF+ syLW310o+tEG+i+SF5HfJfqAl3OK88t01Tmx3rrr64nkBVEsaTHIGyOgDkqk7tuhVhPn uH/Ucce1V+iWS2DFrCFz2k/Y0GPLatya3wwZ8s+4dezYlSozsPkrbeYDVeT5oYr86F1O 4sXQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmhUSzbSMAdVBaOuVJEsbWhQjVPY4/TgVqz4DnpqD5euo5YIjS8PHAm3ykZEJMSwJYjNALzKg2p2UONYF5HYsmRWTqheXI3UgGyH0zYjzzTsVvzWZi19moN/zcIbPzeIA1wvO+VBLNpkD/3d/lJgRIU8XEvWQ== X-Received: by 10.180.106.197 with SMTP id gw5mr37515226wib.58.1426152204187; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 02:23:24 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQLg0UZIsq+15w5AwD0SDZXLD3VPogF1KDjNAq6RgqCa1ooY4A== Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 11:23:22 +0200 Message-ID: To: Bob Weinand Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Basic Scalar Types From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Weinand [mailto:bobwei9@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 12:46 AM > To: Pierre Joye > Cc: PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Basic Scalar Types > > Correct. It's just for the case where the other two fail. > We still can add strict mode in a later version if people need it. > All the RFC does is the most basic scalar type hinting you can build everything > on. (for example adding the declare(strict_types=1); would work without any > BC break on top of it) The issue is that it's only possible to open the voting on this one until tomorrow. As I said, I do think we need *something* for 7.0. I went as far as saying that I'd change my vote on the quite-bad-IMHO dual mode RFC to yes if it seems both present proposals aren't going to succeed. But I would much rather see this one pass over the dual mode if it was available for a vote. So really, the options we have are: 1. Put this one for a vote before the end of tomorrow. Here too, on a personal level, if I see that this proposal isn't gaining enough votes, I'd support the dual mode one. 2. Don't put it up for a vote, and then we may or may not have something for 7.0. Zeev