Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84600 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 50715 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2015 23:06:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Mar 2015 23:06:57 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=dmitry@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=dmitry@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.220.171 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: dmitry@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.171 mail-vc0-f171.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.171] ([209.85.220.171:51618] helo=mail-vc0-f171.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EE/8A-32765-F8AC0055 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:06:56 -0500 Received: by mail-vc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id hy10so4227287vcb.2 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 16:06:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/ta6nc6kGfztk1hZDVnnEAEQT5WieHWPmWkYpBBUSgM=; b=Znnkj/XYDeq5CSjLUFPhCaYtfhPF1IoS7ggBvYCXljMWyMgCdaXhaXq6z4FI80NR+I 6mkUWIPPQASJQSqr1rsnVdzlLWWFFKfuWkNxllbJRW7dio59Yeg8C2MpxLLumjzrBqGz DKprhalaQ8Czkt9sDCXeJGfUrFYWi4KKxyuQi7mH+CBJfBWvjBzx+rW2HSxjpLkh2ct6 AqAf6aItjko9uz1+xZ85lDEjDykzdApyea9Jyo2tiKhrDIjyn+0mI/dBVI6xyxWU/iUY GeBkRUm9D2TTO/utXNduUJw5Tvh4VjU7yyj9UBiKuc9Py23RsrovHfdFMqFXugKjoGQ2 heoA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkyvM+eD9isExD6SJwrpY07d3iYiAcOrtPP5keEXVuh+3SuWMZzAJVLBNVE8zDkpIsMQbNvmECoLftW0YAGvxmoY6ocyiZq/2b1W14k9yGbrBUEO9VIh9pdQzC2WrjKetrb3whDv2WvDAj7o28i06ZdcZ2yBw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.54.66 with SMTP id h2mr1109371vdp.51.1426115213080; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 16:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.113.231 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 16:06:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 02:06:53 +0300 Message-ID: To: Nikita Popov Cc: Bob Weinand , PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1136653eaf5efe05110b52cb Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Basic Scalar Types From: dmitry@zend.com (Dmitry Stogov) --001a1136653eaf5efe05110b52cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Nikita Popov wrote: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Bob Weinand wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > after all, some people are not happy with the current proposals about > > scalar types. So, they both still possibly may fail. > > > > Thus, I'd like to come up with a fallback proposal in case both proposals > > fail: > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/basic_scalar_types > > > > It shouldn't prevent any future improvements and still give use all the > > advantages of scalar types. > > > > Before I even start thinking about this, I'd like to have clarification as > to whether this RFC is still eligible for targeting the PHP 7.0 release. > The currently accepted interpretation is that all RFC votes must have > started by March 15th, which is irreconcilable with an RFC that was only > submitted today. > > Does this mean that we're delaying the PHP 7 schedule by two weeks? > > I feel like this topic is getting out of control. It's been discussed for > months, now we had one vote on Andrea's withdrawn proposal, then another > vote on Anthony's proposal, then another vote on the Zeev et al proposal - > and then we're going to have another one on Bob's proposal? With every vote > taking another couple of weeks. Hey, maybe I should also submit a STH > proposal that we can vote on after that? > > If both Anthony's and Zeev's proposal fail, I would recommend to just drop > this topic for 7.0 and discuss it again for PHP 7.1. The necessary > forward-compatibility changes to allow that are already proposed in another > RFC. > Bob proposes the base common part of both other RFCs. It actually had to be proposed in first place. I would prefer this instead of nothing. I think many people think the same. Thanks. Dmitry. > > Nikita > --001a1136653eaf5efe05110b52cb--