Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84597 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 45963 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2015 22:54:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Mar 2015 22:54:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=nikita.ppv@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=nikita.ppv@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.44 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: nikita.ppv@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.44 mail-wg0-f44.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.44] ([74.125.82.44:34421] helo=mail-wg0-f44.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BA/89-32765-A87C0055 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 17:54:03 -0500 Received: by wgha1 with SMTP id a1so12609738wgh.1 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 15:53:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=84TG9YU04qyDx3hXxYOPmaJgj/ubhUx5a6RcE8Riok8=; b=xEfOeeUXGPcXKR2X46cDLE/jQwZYVq5ZxmWT6RFgIJDxtqs3fF5PAqXdN0StnD8Bgw 2aq9xJDKi3bt1KRIAm4PjA1fHj7xuYFQS7gd+M+24jaj5u0QLqNKkhqZPHXWI+viNPqH O5fTNujLCAhulj0fBrB2usPfo721op98geQtxz5m7z2iT884Fz7373jMtpyaZe3s1ioP 2QbdGDdQTXSATxQ18unXYpiBAHkNSfEf3qSyx6yJ4ixLX5SQeOc1FtU8KRXxA37O0ihi QpRSQBhv/0a+IUp6ymJCp2jiBu729vRR6Xu2tHUtjbu3Pkl+6VmznKzEEyKgxgQ6iHI1 d6HQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.97.106 with SMTP id dz10mr81630773wib.33.1426114439067; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 15:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.10.193 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 15:53:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 23:53:59 +0100 Message-ID: To: Bob Weinand Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0442712e8cbd4f05110b24c2 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Basic Scalar Types From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov) --f46d0442712e8cbd4f05110b24c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Bob Weinand wrote: > Hi all, > > after all, some people are not happy with the current proposals about > scalar types. So, they both still possibly may fail. > > Thus, I'd like to come up with a fallback proposal in case both proposals > fail: > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/basic_scalar_types > > It shouldn't prevent any future improvements and still give use all the > advantages of scalar types. > Before I even start thinking about this, I'd like to have clarification as to whether this RFC is still eligible for targeting the PHP 7.0 release. The currently accepted interpretation is that all RFC votes must have started by March 15th, which is irreconcilable with an RFC that was only submitted today. Does this mean that we're delaying the PHP 7 schedule by two weeks? I feel like this topic is getting out of control. It's been discussed for months, now we had one vote on Andrea's withdrawn proposal, then another vote on Anthony's proposal, then another vote on the Zeev et al proposal - and then we're going to have another one on Bob's proposal? With every vote taking another couple of weeks. Hey, maybe I should also submit a STH proposal that we can vote on after that? If both Anthony's and Zeev's proposal fail, I would recommend to just drop this topic for 7.0 and discuss it again for PHP 7.1. The necessary forward-compatibility changes to allow that are already proposed in another RFC. Nikita --f46d0442712e8cbd4f05110b24c2--