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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 20:48:14 +0200
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To: Benoit Schildnecht <bensor987@neuf.fr>
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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE][RFC] Coercive Scalar Type Hints
From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski)

It was actually Anthony who proposed that I do that.  He also proposed that
if they both pass, we'll have a vote to choose between them.

For a lot of people, the dual mode and coercive STH RFCs aren't a zero sum
game.  They just want ONE of them to pass to have some sort of scalar type
hinting, and almost don't care what it is.  These people should vote in
favor of both RFCs, if they find both of them acceptable.

Rest assured that if I see that they both seem to be failing as we near the
end of the voting time, I'll retract the Coercive STH RFC - and I'll
actually vote in favor of the dual mode RFC, as much as I think it's bad, s=
o
that we have SOME sort of scalar type hinting in 7.

Zeev


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benoit Schildnecht [mailto:bensor987@neuf.fr]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 8:37 PM
> To: internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE][RFC] Coercive Scalar Type Hints
>
> Hi,
>
> You are making a very huge mistake, IMHO. By having 2 conflicting RFC, yo=
u
> are taking the risk they both fail. And it won't do any good to the
> language.
>
> While you could have either proposed yours after the STH one if it would
> have failed, or create a new RFC to make the STH one evolve if it would
> have
> succeeded, you decided to act with precipitation.
> Why did you do this ?
>
> I'm kinda sad, upset and anxious.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> "Zeev Suraski"  a =C3=A9crit dans le message de groupe de discussion :
> >The vote on the Coercive Scalar Type Hints is now open for voting.
>
> >The latest version of the RFC includes changes discussed on internals@
> >last
> week:
>
> >1.  Accept string->bool and int->bool conversions (false->bool is not
> supported)
>
> >2.  Accept leading/trailing spaces in string->number conversions.
>
>
>
> wiki.php.net/rfc/coercive_sth
>
> wiki.php.net/rfc/coercive_sth#vote
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Zeev
>
>
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