Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84550 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 50323 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2015 15:50:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Mar 2015 15:50:06 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.212.181 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.181 mail-wi0-f181.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.181] ([209.85.212.181:42425] helo=mail-wi0-f181.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D0/57-07702-B2460055 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 10:50:04 -0500 Received: by widex7 with SMTP id ex7so12940640wid.1 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 08:50:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=HGGdgwiLtYfYA6zTjsWjsSaKewlmMsoLn4v1jQeN5Cw=; b=DWWyI14m0k8ihR/QYqZvZpbOc+PZE1DqLnV+RlkbjG5t8ZrYf08G+GwSA04xY/d/UR pIlFfXxvgzosyyDT+iIXbkxMivUG62AsIXvncZanx7a42yTLvFR9Qj1Eh5SF2iP5C8dZ xhFWXia5R4bttoNJhYWLRMQly6c/tX14tyJeaAsJFzboYaDFeG/ewHhoLF9KurC7MJwE nZohuQsSS/FHoCjMvljuzvhjfmRvHPHiISw8m+htYNyzeITvxhmjF4TheFkIGC5IPmZM BPbtOZ1rllZloB6OhTbDz5TYEwjn2yH/cOX+JGxsZJfw6sXTwPwRlUb/mcg1gcbhJNF6 xeqw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk0FWQu2DXXje1kDp1uJIHxvg7JYmOuQO4tK1HKd8cNfvxretYTj9H54Epicwb6vF/jkwiOSaGbJ+37HblzZ5fn0F21t+3AM/gjLD0Olh9l1Ucjdjia1CjT1d9t+fRiYqeQ5xcuhC1bW+6vWe7CLoTs7iqH8Q== X-Received: by 10.194.177.132 with SMTP id cq4mr75793104wjc.99.1426089000940; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 08:50:00 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQKPOnWVaAuYgcCmzEA2Wd2iOMMQuAMmEE0im4B4VxA= Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 17:49:59 +0200 Message-ID: <8ce9092d78d01aeb8873fdd17da5beec@mail.gmail.com> To: Anthony Ferrara Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Coercive Scalar Type Hints From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) Anthony, While I only put in the final changes today, they're identical to what I said was going to be done on the discussion thread a week+ ago, there was no further feedback or discussion on these changes. The patch (minus these two minor changes) has been available for over a week. I think we've had enough drama with scalar type hints already and it's time for closure. Let's let the two votes go through and finally get clarity. If people find big rejects on the tweaked patch which requires substantial meaningful changes - I'll restart the vote if necessary. Thanks, Zeev > -----Original Message----- > From: Anthony Ferrara [mailto:ircmaxell@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:20 PM > To: Zeev Suraski > Cc: PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Coercive Scalar Type Hints > > Zeev, > > Considering that there has not been any discussion of your final proposal > (since the last change), I think putting it to vote prior to having the > ability to > test or discuss is extremely problematic. > Especially considering every time we tried to test the proposal or discuss > it > before you said that you needed to "tweak the rules". Now opening vote > without giving the ability for people to test it or discuss prior to > voting is > extremely bad form. > > I **strongly** suggest that you retract the vote and open discussion on > the > final proposal. > > Anthony > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > The vote on the Coercive Scalar Type Hints is now open for voting. > > > > > > > > The latest version of the RFC includes changes discussed on internals@ > > last > > week: > > > > 1. Accept string->bool and int->bool conversions (false->bool is not > > supported) > > > > 2. Accept leading/trailing spaces in string->number conversions. > > > > > > > > wiki.php.net/rfc/coercive_sth > > > > wiki.php.net/rfc/coercive_sth#vote > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > Zeev