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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 17:54:52 +1100
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To: Yasuo Ohgaki <yohgaki@ohgaki.net>
Cc: PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>, Kalle Sommer Nielsen <kalle@php.net>, 
	Xinchen Hui <laruence@php.net>, reeze <reeze@php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [Discussion] Deprecate function sizeof()
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

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On Mar 10, 2015 2:41 PM, "Yasuo Ohgaki" <yohgaki@ohgaki.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Pierre and all,
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Xinchen Hui <laruence@php.net> wrote:
>> > Hey:
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Yasuo Ohgaki <yohgaki@ohgaki.net>
wrote:
>> >> Hi Reeze,
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:56 PM, reeze <reeze@php.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> It is a deprecated warning I won't break code I think.
>> >>>
>> >>> This could makes those project more maintainable (new PHP programmer
could
>> >>> be easier to maintain the code without surprise), and it will be
trivial to
>> >>> fix this. We could move things forward ;-)
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> It's possible option for confusing APIs.
>> >> If sizeof() is kept at least until PHP8 or PHP9, I'll vote yes for
this.
>> > We just removed all DEPRECATED functions...
>>
>> we did not remove functions as far as I can tell. Some extension at best.
>>
>> > then you want to brings new :<
>> >
>> > anyway, I'd prefer don't do it. especially with little gain.
>>
>> Agreed
>>
>> And generally speaking, we should really think again about this flag,
>> it has been proven to be a mess at best, or useless at worst.
>
>
> There are 2 camps, people who would like to keep procedural API as it is
> and people who would like to improve/maintain procedural API while there
> are no separated camps having improved/maintained OO API.
>
> It may be time to discuss how we are going to use namespace for internal
> functions/classes/interfaces to move forward both procedural and OO APIs
> so that we'll have zero BC API upgrade.

I do not think it has anything to do with OO or procedural but the actual
gains.

I see none here.

> Regards,
>
> --
> Yasuo Ohgaki
> yohgaki@ohgaki.net
>

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