Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84324 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 94309 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2015 08:33:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Mar 2015 08:33:24 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=yohgaki@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=yohgaki@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.49 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: yohgaki@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.49 mail-qa0-f49.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.49] ([209.85.216.49:34744] helo=mail-qa0-f49.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CF/D4-56703-3D418F45 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2015 03:33:23 -0500 Received: by mail-qa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id w8so37668402qac.8 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2015 00:33:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=T3nvlpmFn04AKvGFvMuUNtVYIIlGTntk8DgRsumwZF4=; b=y+761P+fXKP7As1gL7P8v5UwYP5TH0tuDaKY6SPy54JsGXx9agVV6pJ3aUKjU9tGTW Qi+rUGqXvq8pGJC9I8w4oWjgL2hs8pJpXnMPvSizP7yO/vq5ntX07559L7+4FJXd7ysR WGt2Zl3FYhOkG/qwABPrrSiHX3voR3heSmQsOZGoy/KK3iuH8jnNhPlfpN+ymwMm6KgO w9uRuSYyn11dZurkR8XtDUrHo/ZAx6vjzAQ9IpISE06uF56aYHwHfNBXCysaB845XpsP Cdpejqd/tr7f3ikLTuRUTeigQKVVCzv49/prAtWD6/8lWVz4uOuvPzZI29DEADuz6icv YbrA== X-Received: by 10.140.105.183 with SMTP id c52mr10975618qgf.54.1425544400921; Thu, 05 Mar 2015 00:33:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: yohgaki@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.198.8 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Mar 2015 00:32:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54F80C69.8040101@lerdorf.com> References: <54F4FDFB.8010701@lsces.co.uk> <54F5895D.3090002@gmail.com> <554F0C3F-770F-4694-A5AB-FDC54FCCBF00@gmail.com> <54F72360.6000702@lerdorf.com> <54F73702.9050806@lerdorf.com> <54F7E61B.4040301@lerdorf.com> <54F80C69.8040101@lerdorf.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 17:32:40 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Dc4p7FeRUoAtI5sMNQgB4m3_z1s Message-ID: To: Rasmus Lerdorf Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1139c298a0eedb0510866b3c Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Consistent function names From: yohgaki@ohgaki.net (Yasuo Ohgaki) --001a1139c298a0eedb0510866b3c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Rasmus, On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > On 03/04/2015 10:21 PM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > > The same could be done for new names. > > Manual pages for localtime()/mktime()/etc would look a lot nicer. > > I hope there will be more favored developers with the RFC. Since I'm > > going to > > update manual to have alias search feature, developers used to POSIX can > > find > > PHP function name easily. If they would like to use POSIX name, they can > use > > it also. Nobody will try to remove POSIX names in the future, I suppose. > > > > In short, I would like to propose to have both PHP and IEEE names as > > officially > > valid names. Do you like this proposal? > > Nope, I don't. PHP is over 20 years old at this point and the PHP names > for the functions are one and the same as the IEEE names. I see > absolutely no reason to create a new class of "PHP" names. Since we have both violations, IEEE and PHP, having both would be possible resolution. I don't like to be somewhere between. Some functions confirm, but others don't, isn't nice to have. If we comply, complying as much as possible is better. IMHO. Anyway, if you would like to keep only mktime()/nl_langinfo()/etc without PHP coding standard names. I'll make this an option. What about adding IEEE confirmed aliases like isalpha()? Would you like to have these? Regards, -- Yasuo Ohgaki yohgaki@ohgaki.net --001a1139c298a0eedb0510866b3c--